[Buckhorn76]

So all this leaves me the question of which one. Is a $900 turk better than a $500 turk? I want a .410. It's mostly for fun and maybe dove hunting on the farm. I'm pretty sure I want steel frame or does steel v aluminum really matter in a .410. Tristar, Pointer, cz, ATI?

Which way to go? See buying Italian is easy, you know they're all good with entry around $1800ish. Buying turk sub $1k is hard because it's tough to determine good enough.

I have a Yildiz 410. Has snabel forend, quality wood. 3" chambers. Really nice gun to look at, but I've only shot it a few times. If there are problems, Academy will send gun, no charge, to Briley for repairs.

 

[Buckhorn76]

Having only been shooting for 2.5 years, I don't have enough experience to make any general statements about Turkish shotguns. But here is my experience. I purchased a used Mossberg 12 ga. O/U Silver Reserve and have put about 10,000 rounds through it. I shoot skeet in the low 20's, clean it every 200 rounds or so, and have had no problems with it at all. Other more experienced Shooters have tried it and say it has a very hard trigger pull. Sometimes ignorance is bliss, but good to know. They also tell me the gun will break down in the future. Meanwhile a fellow shooter has a Perrazi that he spent a ton of money on, and it is constantly having problems now. Recently I purchased a Berreta 686 Silver Pigeon. I still shoot in the low 20's, but it feels better and my shooting buddies say I look more confident. Go figure.

Yeah, I'm thinking that Turkish are a good entry level purchase for new shooters or beginners. Do you more experienced guys agree?

 

[Buckhorn76]

There are good and more bad Turkish guns.

I have Yildiz. I especially like the 20 ga O/U. Works good for a part-timer like myself. Great price too.

 

[Buckhorn76]

Some folks don't ask for much from their shotguns.
For them, cost is the most important criteria.
That's why the Turkish gun makers have the market they enjoy.

China has the world's highest per capita rate of rabies. I wonder why?

 

[Buckhorn76]

Gentlemen,

Yes guns are tools, however I purchase tools that last forever when taken care of properly, from Snap On to L.C. Smith, I like life time tools that due their job no matter how old the tool gets. The Turkish made SXS double Guns have come a long way quality wise in the past 5 years, my new Intermediate 20 gauge CZ Bob White is one heck of a nice double gun for the money I expended. The gun is really a medium quality Box Lock gun at an entry level price of $699.00. When looking for an entry level SXS double gun that is very hard to beat. The gun functions perfectly all the time and is regulated properly for bird shooting. One heck of a good modern tool, that weighs 6.5 lbs, on my new postal scale. Now do not get me wrong, this little CZ gun has not been built with the L.C. Smith quality, however it very well maybe a life time Box Lock double gun. Only time and usage will tell.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith Man

Just bought me a 16 ga SXS CZ

 

[Buckhorn76]

Just bought a used CZ sharptail sxs in 16 ga. It has 28" barrels and fixed choke M and IC. In hard case. Looks like new. With shipping, paid $1K. Haven't shot it yet, but hope it works.

 

[Buckhorn76]

Dave, thank you for asking. I got the serial number, 21C5137, call CZ USA, and was told that it is a standard Sharptail 16 ga, general purpose but mostly for waterfowl. It was manufactured 1/2024 and weighs 7.3 lbs. I did post photos. Thanks again for your interest. And of course, if you have further comments, suggestions, info, would be appreciated.

 

[Buckhorn76]

So let me ask a question. Working class parent has a kid that wants to shoot trap in high school. Should they buy the Browning for $1800 and scrounge for ammo, or the turk for $400 and buy a bunch of ammo?

I remember when I was in 7th grade. I wanted to play the flute. Mom bought me one on credit. I gave it up in two weeks. She wasn't happy. haha

 

[Buckhorn76]

Back in the day, Model 11's and A-5's were not cheap. Yet my great grandfather hunted his Model 11 HARD (year round), as did my grandfather with his A-5 Light 12, as did my late father with his A-5 standardweight. All three run perfectly today. Three of the longest running, best value shotguns I've seen: true lifetime guns and beyond.

 

[Buckhorn76]

Hmmm can tell which actually shoot and which ones don't.

So far the ones with the Turkey guns are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead.
And most likely way more perficient in their abilities.

Perficient is a word--checked it.

 

[Buckhorn76]

not sure what metric you used to come to that conclusion but I would rethink it. Oh, and spellcheck is your friend

Perficient is a word--google it.

 

[Buckhorn76]

I don’t have to google. I am familiar with the term. That would be a stretch regarding context.

Maybe not. One source said that it is an archaic or early form of proficient.

 

[Buckhorn76]

Bingo!

Gentlemen,

What Randy is trying to say is that the manufacturer makes the gun so you the customer have no break-in period, it's the sign of a quality made gun to have no break in period at the consumer level. Its the same as true breech work fitting, the gun is made perfect & tested prior to the sale of the gun to the customer.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith/Westley Richards Man

My A400, bought new, worked immediately without a hiccup. Thinking I wanted a smaller lighter gun, I looked at the Sweet 16; however, many posts on this forum warn that it will need a break-in period with heavy loads.