Tom, Anyone who rides can tell stories about how they looked death in the face. You got to love it or leave it. And if you leave it, you'll know if you love it. ...........................I gave up riding for the same reasons you mentioned and now there is a hole in my heart because of it. It's scary as hell when you think about it. But what's worse for me is living life like a big chicken. So I'm working on a new horse for the spring time. ........................................there's a long winding road that goes up the side of a bluff along the Mississippi where I used to live. The speed limit is 35 going up to the ridge. When you get to the top the speed limit goes to 55. There is a turn at that point which straightens out to a long country highway. A beautiful ride day or night, I prefer hot summer nights. 8) One time I was going up that road and in a pre-meditated motion, hit the throttle at the top as i was coming up and out of that last turn to the highway. At the instant I hit 55 60 or so there were 4 deer in the middle of the road. I had no choice but to hit them, it was that sudden. Well there was some kind of miracle that night because I went straight through all 4 of them. In fact, one of them turned to run as I was going through and actually clipped my back end as I went through them. They were all that close. You want to talk about heart attack? 2 weeks later I was going up that same road with my old room mate (in an x-girlfriend's car)and we hit the biggest doe I've ever laid eyes on. In the same spot. Hhhmm. :? ......................Then there was the time i hit a raccoon as big as a Rottweiler. The s.o.b. ran straight at me and got blood all over my leg and the side of my bike. Oh well **** happens right? Yeah until I was out with my woman on a ride and a tractor/trailer almost took us out. We were fine, but the kicker was when she was driving through town one day and came across a fresh accident. A guy taking his daughter for a ride jumped out into traffic and got squashed. She held the little girl until the ambulance showed up.That did it for us. She gave me hell for a long time after that to change my evil ways. So I did. :roll: And now I regret it. I've had the nightmares too Tom. I know what you're thinking. Like I said, Love it or leave it. you don't want to be riding around half-cocked or afraid of things that might happen. That's when you make mistakes. Take a break for a while and see how you feel. Sorry for all the wind but you really got me thinking again. Thanks man. :wink: