Who cares if a few thousand people die?...not Gordonsetter.
First off how dare you presume to know anything about who I care about. You do not know my personal thoughts and feelings by misinterpreting my post here. You do not make a personal statement against me again. Nowhere in my post did I make any statement that supported your lying personal attack against me. Retract (not edit) your statement sir!
As far a congress being mislead you must think that all your elected officials are idiots and Bush is a brilliant mastermind. I don't buy it. Ever person in our government looked at this war and said "Yes, Saddam must go, and here we can liberate a country in the process." As far as the money thing, um what money are you talking about? The billions in aid we are GIVING the Iraqi people? The billions we SPENT on military hardware and personal? The billions we are SPENDING to rebuild? I don't see a lot coming in, do you? Oil prices are going up so that's not it. There is a natural gas shortage so that's not it. Where is all this money we are making off the war?
You don't believe the CIA, FOX or CNN. I don't blame you. I don't either! The trick is to take all the information presented by as many sources as possible and sift the truth out. Truth will be obvious once you start to look at the information sources as a whole. Do not take a bit of information that you heard or read somewhere and regurgitate it, that will not make it fact.
A mobile chemical laboratory with most of the chemicals needed to make chemical weapons painted camo, netted and half buried in the desert is not like some high school chemistry lab! Thousands of gas masks and chemical exposure suits is not "some" gas masks. What do you think these items were for? Do you think we should have waited to find out? Do you think we should have waited until Saddam unleashed WMD on innocents before we stepped in? I for one am glad we stepped in before Saddam got these weapons fully operational.
As far a Saddam and Ladden being caught: Believe what you want. It would be in Bush's best interest to capture these men. With an election year coming up it would only boost his popularity to deliver what the people want. It would not make sense for him to purposely fail at an objective this public and measurable.
The main reason all the arab countries controlled their people and stopped them from protesting was through promissing them that the palestinians will get their freedom.
So you admit (and generalize) that "arab" governments suppress their people. You also are under the assumption that Palestinians are not an invading force in Israel and they have a right to take part of Israel for their own. That is another topic but if you look at the history of the war between Israel and the Palestinians you will see that Israel was there first and the Palestinians want to wipe Israel off the map. Ever see an official Palestinian map? Israel is renamed Palestine. I also have never before heard the Palestinian argument used to explain the repression of people in Iraq and Afghanistan. I would like some more clarity on how that works.
The UN, and amnesty international seem to be quite popular when people want to use them to invade countries
Um last I check the UN was against this action from the get go. So that argument of the UN and AI being popular to invade is a null point in this argument. If we had actually used the UN to invade then you could make this argument, but we didn't. The US government said the same thing I did "Who cares about the UN? Not Us" see that is the statement of a free, sovereign nation that knows right from wrong. Saddam was wrong and I dare any sane person to say otherwise.
Considering the US went in to liberate them the US SHOULD care about what happens to them,
Again look at the billions in aid we are providing. Look at the rebuilding effort the US is heading. What was the first ship brought in when it was safe? An aid ship. How can you say the US isn't taking care of the people after the liberation. I suppose we are taking all of that money and spending it out at area 51 and those ships of aid and trucks delivering food you see on the news are trick photography? I don't think so.
but as its obvious by your statement the wars just took place for money and land rather than for people.
The war was about ending a regime of evil before that evil could do more harm. Liberating the people under that regime was a major benefit. Please tell me where in anything I said I made it obvious that we are in it for the money (which no one can seem to locate) or land. If by "in it for the people" you mean that we were there to keep Saddam from testing weapons on them and from killing innocents when he decided to show the world how strong he was then yes we are there for the people. Again we are spending billions right now on Iraq, there is no money, deeds, or land rights coming back in to our bank accounts.
Unless I'm mistaken Al Guida did not blow up a new set of towers each year. Just because they have not done anything big, in the US, lately does not mean that the war on Terrorism is over.
Who said the war on terror was over? If you actually read what you wrote you said that Al-Qaeda is as strong as ever. I illustrated that they are not as strong as ever. At their strongest they murdered thousands by destroying the WTC. How you get "the war on terror is over" from that I don't know. Al-Qaeda is broken and weaker now than when they attacked us they are not as strong as ever!
The Defence minister hiomself said that the contracts would go to US companies, just after the end of the neverending war. Maybe he was misinformed as well.
Again go back and read what I wrote. Nobody is arguing that the contracts are not going to US companies. I was arguing why they went to the companies they went to. You tried to make it sound like these companies only got the job because they're friends with Bush. I let you know these companies stood on their own. Go back and read it again.
Lets look at fact that can not be changed:
Saddam is evil
Saddam is not longer in a position to kill millions
Iraq is getting aid
The US is spending billions on Iraq
Gas prices are up
The French, UN, AI, and Germany did not risk anything in this war and therefore get no benefit that may come down the road, nor do they share in the expense that we are incurring now.
Any financial benefit we get from this war in the next 50 years will just be enough to cover debt we acquired liberating, aiding and rebuilding Iraq