I'll admit to sometimes using my hunting loads (1 oz. or 3/4 oz. of 7's) at targets. What I've found, though, is as little as 3/4 oz. of 8's will reliably break targets at surprisingly long distances with the correct choke. I hit 4 out of 5 of a crossing target at 40 yards last week. I would have never guessed I could hit the target let alone break it 80% of the time with 3/4 oz. of 8's.