I recently bought a Grabber 8567. New to shotshell reloading, but many years of experience with metallic. I have to say the Grabber is giving me lots of aggravation. Some really stupid design elements. Today's session problems: 1. Spring for lock bar slid off--result, spilled powder (now I've taped it down to the lock bar tab; fixed for now, but what a stupid design). 2. Lock failed to release, cause still a mystery--result, two cases crimped without powder or shot before I noticed it 3. Weight of shot pushed out plug in shot bottle when I flipped top back--result, lots of shot spilled 4. Powder tube clamp came loose (set by factory)--result three high primers, the last of which locked the machine up real good 5. Despite being locked in tight with set screw, universal charge bar powder throw changed ONE Full Grain after 30 shells loaded; thankfully I was under max, but this made the whole exercise of loading some low recoil shells pointless. 7. Lock bar trip rod stuck in channel--result, powder dropped despite no hull in powder station.mike1 said:I have 4 Mec reloaders and with the exception of the jr's they drive me crazy. Shot & powder everywhere at least once a nite and I have used them for years. The 8567 grabber 20 ga is a real pain in the sitter. Adjust, adjust and more adjust. Thats it.