I used to be a Winchester man for steel and trap loads, and shot federal lead for upland. I switched to Hevi-shot for waterfowl and upland (it just works better than steel or lead). Since I was then buying Remington I tried their STS loads and I like them, but I could go either way on target loads, AAs or STS. However, Remington does not have a load equal to the Featherlight AA, which I use for close trap.
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What happened to Winchester?
first the desecration of the AA hull.
I then was interested in what manufacturers were putting in their
steel shot loads,because on another board, i heard Kent was loading CSD wads in their ammo, which are only supposed to handle #3 steel or smaller,but Kent is loading larger sizes in that wad, and the wads are perforating , exposing the choke and or barrel to steel rub.
So i then cut open one of my brothers Winchester X-pert 3" shells of #2 steel shot.
WHAT AN EYE OPENER!
i subsequently cut apart a federal classic, and a remington nitro steel, and they didn't look too bad at all,
but here's some of the steel shot i found in just one single Win X-pert shell, and believe me, NONE of the shot looked round,most were flattened spheres, this is especially detrimental with steel, because of it's lack of density.
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first the desecration of the AA hull.
I then was interested in what manufacturers were putting in their
steel shot loads,because on another board, i heard Kent was loading CSD wads in their ammo, which are only supposed to handle #3 steel or smaller,but Kent is loading larger sizes in that wad, and the wads are perforating , exposing the choke and or barrel to steel rub.
So i then cut open one of my brothers Winchester X-pert 3" shells of #2 steel shot.
WHAT AN EYE OPENER!
i subsequently cut apart a federal classic, and a remington nitro steel, and they didn't look too bad at all,
but here's some of the steel shot i found in just one single Win X-pert shell, and believe me, NONE of the shot looked round,most were flattened spheres, this is especially detrimental with steel, because of it's lack of density.
Ultra---kinda looks like the "bean counters" have been favored over the customers to me. Darn shame that Winchester quality has gone down hill over the last few years---used to be the only thing I would shoot. 
Thats horrible. I've seen rounder bird droppings than that!UltraMag said:![]()
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