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I reposted this topic from the "Shotguns - General" forum, hoping the more specialised forum would yield a bigger response:

Hi All,

I've become interested in learning about Winchester-branded variants of the old (1985 and earlier) Winchester 101 O/U. My rudimentary understanding is that the same Japanese factory (Kodensha?) that made the Winchester 101 also made O/Us under the Winchester name based on the 101 action with slight differences (such as double triggers, etc.) for markets other than the U.S.

I think that such variants may possibly include a Winchester 99 (a double trigger 101 for the European market?), and may possibly include Winchester 96 and Winchester 94 models.

I am not referring to 101 clones (or predecessors) made by Kodensha and sold in the USA under a name other than Winchester (such as Nikko). I am referring to Winchester-branded products. Also, I am not referring to non-Kodensha 101 variants, such as the Classic Doubles (which I understand to have been made in the USA).

Does anyone have any info they can contribute to shed light on what (if any) Winchester-branded Winchester 101 variants were made and what features those variants included?

Thanks!

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Pick up a copy of Dennis Adler's book "Winchester Shotguns". It's $20-$30 at most bookstores. Adler dedicates 21 pages to the O/Us that Winchester sourced globally and sold in various markets.

Briefly, O/U's were sourced from the following countries:

Models 101, 96, 99, 501 (Japan)
Model 91 (Spain)
Model 1001 (Italy)
 

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5000, 5500 and 6500 series. I've seen a 5000 that had DT's. The front trigger is in effect a nonselective single trigger (bottom/top), the back trigger fires the top.
 

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WinM12 - Thanks for the head's-up on Dennis Adler's book. I have a copy on its way to me.

Seb7515 - Are the 5000, 5500 and 6500 models Nikko branded? I did a search on "Winchester 5000" and found a Nikko Golden Eagle 5000 listed on Gunbroker. Are the Nikkos carbon copies of the Winchesters? In other words, could the trigger parts of a Nikko 5000 with double triggers be substituted into a Winchester 101 to convert the 101 from a single trigger to a double trigger?

Thanks.

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Twofer said:
Seb7515 - Are the 5000, 5500 and 6500 models Nikko branded? I did a search on "Winchester 5000" and found a Nikko Golden Eagle 5000 listed on Gunbroker. Are the Nikkos carbon copies of the Winchesters? In other words, could the trigger parts of a Nikko 5000 with double triggers be substituted into a Winchester 101 to convert the 101 from a single trigger to a double trigger?

Thanks.

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Chris Showler at Double Eagle Trading LLC offers a double trigger conversion for Win 101's.
 

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Seb7515 - Thanks for the head's-up on the double trigger conversion. I like double triggers and am interested in contacting Double Eagle. Any idea on whether such a conversion would hurt the value of the gun?

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Short answer is you'll probably loose money.

Depends on the buyer. Some like DT, some don't. Some like SST, some don't. There is an argument for not modifying a pristine gun and I understand that modifying a collectable probably shouldn't be done. Just sell the the things. Spend the monies on a little used gun and have it changed to suit your needs. You'll loose money but not nearly as much as shooting the collector item.
 
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