We are all entitled to opinions here. We all have them. We try to be friendly to everyone.
There are a lot of people very happy with their Winchester Model 1200's and 1300 pumps. I pheasant hunt every year with a wealthy man who will shoot nothing else.
The last absolutely bad shotgun I remember being sold new was the last of the Savage/Stevens pump shotguns at Wal Mart about 20 years ago. So, the Winchester is not really a bad shotgun.
However, if anyone here is reading this, and doesn't have a shotgun, and is contemplating buying a Model 1200/1300, here's my opinion. I own one. I've owned several. They are the absolute bottom of the barrel of late model shotguns. When you take out the trigger group and look inside they are made of the absolute flimsiest, stamped, horrid looking parts imaginable. They do work, for a casual shooter/hunter. They look a lot better on the outside than they do the inside. But the Mossberg is a far, far better shotgun. And, the Remington 870 Express is a better shotgun that the Mossberg. The other two don't even cost more. The Winchester is no longer made, the other two are. Without any question, if you haven't "leaped" yet, buy the Remington 870 Express, or 870 Wingmaster (if you can afford the deluxe model). You'll be happier with it, I think.