I purchased a new Supreme Field around a month ago. The gun I bought was a leftover prior to "Select". I don't really know what the difference between the Select and non-Select is. They advertise that the Slect has lighter contour barrels. So far I ran around 200 - 300 shots through this gun at sporting clays and trap. This is a nice shooting gun. Any birds I missed was because I suck! :lol:
It fits like a glove and comes up real nice. The only thing I'm not used to yet is the non automatic safety, only because all my other doubles have them. I'll get over that real quick. I'll give this gun a thumbs up.
Sam, I too have the old model sporting with 30 in. barrels. I am a old gun-smith and needed a nother gun like I need a nother hole in my head. I found one last year on sale for $899.00 and could not pass it up. I took the stock off to see how it was made and not to fear, just like any thing F.N makes. Looks like a watch in side and really well thought out. It has the same ejecter system as a Beretta and locks up like a Beretta but also has a lug on the bottom that the Beretta does not have. I know some said it was front end heavy but some guys like that. I don't know why, but they realy holowed out the stock. Had they left more wood it would have balanced better. who knows why they do what they do. I just took a zip lock bag and added some #8 shot and kept adding a little at a time and slipping it into the stock ontill it balances right at the hinge pins. Leave the pad hanging on with one screw so you have that weight also. I can shoot 100s of rounds a day with no problem. I love this gun and now my Browning and Beretta stays home most of the time. BUY ONE!!
Thanks for the replies. I guess I'll see for myself, as my new gun shows up on Thursday. (Of course, "trap night" is Wednesday in my neck of the woods, but I guess I need to properly clean, lube, and drool over it before taking it out for its first run...)
Can't wait. This is the most money I've ever spent on a single gun, but I researched the heck out of this one, it has all the features I'm looking for, so I have high hopes. Hell, painting the house can wait till next summer.
I have a non- Select Supreme and I can testify to the barrel heavy nature of the gun. I put a half pound of lead as close to the recoil pad as I could and I still couldn't get it to balance on the pin. My fiance is looking at O/U for her and so far she likes the new Selects. She handled one in the store and immediatly commented on how much lighter the barrels were than my Supreme. I picked the gun up and was shocked. There is a big difference. I still love my gun, but the Select does seem like an improvement for the better.
The first time I took it out I shot ~75 rounds, and nearly did myself in! The stock recoil pad was not up to that level of shooting - at least for me. As noted elsewhere, I'm a wimp when it comes to recoil. I ended up with a egg-sized, black & blue, well, "egg" in my shoulder pocket, and some serious pain in the shoulder on the last few shots. Not like normal recoil thumping, but serious "have I done some damage?" kind of pain. It may have been I wasn't seating the gun properly, a little more "inboard" than usual, due to the way the gun mounted, but I do put some blame on the stock recoil pad. The bruise and swelling took about 5 days to clear up.
So I put a Simms Labs "LimbSaver" pad on it. Found one of their prefit pads fit this gun with no alterations to the pad, though I did have to redrill the screw holes in the stock. (LimbSaver model #10001.) I'll be putting a note in the gunsmithing section about this in the near future, as I ran into a couple of things that other hobbyist-gunsmiths might be interested in. Went out Saturday and did 100 rounds with no problems at all. Gun performed flawlessly, shoulder is fine, no pain, no bruising. Couldn't ask for a better solution.
The gun's fit is flawless, with good wood to metal contact, even lines, and tight lockup. The whole gun was pretty tight when new, of course, but after almost 200 rounds is finally loosening up a bit. The vent rib and spacer between the barrels are both very solidly mounted, and made out of steel; In fact, I don't think there's any aluminum on this gun, which is great. The "two tone" brushed and polished stainless on the receiver is beautiful, and I really like the no-nonsense not-too-much-engraving look. Even the trigger is excellent. It uses Browning Invector-Plus chokes, and comes with an improved, modified, and full.
As a matter of fact, the gun is made by Browning, despite the Winchester nameplate. In fact, it's made by FN for Browning for Winchester, in some kind of odd relationship that reminds me of the similarly-schizoid lineage of my Jeep Cherokee.
On the down side, I was disappointed to discover that they really rushed the bluing process on this guns' barrels. I must've used a half sack of patches, steel wool, Scotch-Brite, and various cleaners to get the fine coating of RUST off the exterior and interior of the barrels. You couldn't see it with the naked eye, but if you ran a patch over the barrels it would come back orange. I had seen this once before, on a Ruger single action, and learned at that time that this is usually due to the bluing salts not being properly rinsed off, and the barrels not being treated properly after bluing. So basically, if their rush to get this gun to market, they didn't finish it. It was one thing on a little .22 pistol. It's another thing on an $1100 shotgun. I realize this is "nothing" in a world of $10K Perazzis, etc, but it happens to be the most I've ever laid out on a single firearm, and I was rather disappointed that the manufacturer couldn't have paid just a little more attention to my new prized possession. Ah well, such is the current state of the art in gun manufacture, it seems.
That said, I would still recommend the gun to others looking for a great O/U in the sub $1500 category. It's a great gun with lots of features for the price, and a great shooter. Apparently it's pretty much par for the course to have to clean up after the manufacturers these days.
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