[Ed Lyons SportsVision]

Great video from the guys at TGS outdoors featuring pro coach and World Champion Ed Solomons;

 

[PawleysJim]

I saw that video the other day...A whole new way of looking at things!!

 

[Ed Lyons SportsVision]

I saw that video the other day...A whole new way of looking at things!!

Agreed - if you need to, and it works, and you’re happy, do it! So many people shooting opposite eye/handed having a horrible time because they’ve been told they MUST keep both eyes open. Crazy

 

[Drew Hause]

Ed's bona fides

https://www.edsolomons.com/biography

Testimonial by a cross-dominant shooter

Clay shooting clinic: Back to basics - Clay Shooting magazine

Jason Doyle uncovers the fundamentals of shooting technique during a lesson with Ed Solomons

www.clay-shooting.com

I like to shoot rabbits gun-up, as it gives me much more time on the target. Mount the gun on the hold point, then open both eyes. This is most beneficial on a left-to-right target, as the wider field of view affords you a much earlier pickup, but it also helps to a lesser extent on right-to-left birds. As the rabbit comes to the hold point, close your left eye and start the move.

 

[MNGunner]

Great video. Thanks for posting!

 

[Patently Obvious]

Saw the video too when it first popped up as I follow TGS. I’m not sure if Johnny was completely closing the off eye or just squinting a bit as both approaches were discussed in the video along with patches etc. If find for certain shots just a partial squint works for me and it’s easier then trying to keep one eye completely closed for me.

 

[DogDay]

Great video, I follow TGS outdoors on Youtube. They had some great course videos of the different sporting clubs in the UK. The sporting clubs in the UK look quite different than the ones I shoot here in NC. You don't see golf carts, side by sides or push carts around the courses like here in the US. Most shooters carry their own guns and ammo.

 

[Coach Super-X]

If I wanted to make sure a learner never got very good I would tell him the crap Solomons did in the video. Turning someone into a barrel-watching measurer is not doing them a favor.

 

[Notch15]

Turning someone into a barrel-watching measurer is not doing them a favor.

That's not what was suggested.

 

[Coach Super-X]

That's not what was suggested.

But it is what happened, per the guy's own words.

 

[Vette Jockey2]

If I wanted to make sure a learner never got very good I would tell him the crap Solomons did in the video.

That's the kettle calling the pot black. Some of your advice isn't spot-on, either.

 

[Notch15]

But it is what happened, per the guy's own words.

Ed asked..."With you dimming your eye, would you say you're more or less aware of the barrel?" to which the answer given was "More." Ed then goes on to say..."So you're not looking at the gun, but you are aware of the gun."

Being aware of the gun is not measuring.

Do you use, or can you use sustained lead to break a target?

 

[Coach Super-X]

Do you use, or can you use sustained lead to break a target?

Yes, all the time.

But I do not (consciously) see where the barrel is to do that. Not even a little bit.

 

[Notch15]

Yes, all the time.

But I do not (consciously) see where the barrel is to do that. Not even a little bit.

But you have to be aware of the barrel to do it.

 

[Hwcn]

Barrel awareness is not the act of looking at the barrel, nor the act of measuring. I can’t fathom how one could become an accomplished shooter without barrel awareness.

 

[Ed Lyons SportsVision]

If I wanted to make sure a learner never got very good I would tell him the crap Solomons did in the video. Turning someone into a barrel-watching measurer is not doing them a favor.

I guess you didn’t watch the start of the video.

Did you do that research I suggested?

Do both. It’ll make you better 😉

 

[Coach Super-X]

Barrel awareness is not the act of looking at the barrel, nor the act of measuring. I can’t fathom how one could become an accomplished shooter without barrel awareness.

Neither can I!

But there are different ways to be "aware" of where your barrel is, and the "difference" makes all the difference.

The give-away is at about minute 16 when Solomons asks him if he is "more or less aware of the barrel" when he is winking his left eye down, and the guy unhesitatingly answers "More!" and then follows up with "acutely."

Measuring can work great on the simple presentations Solomons was having the guy shoot (like the 2 mph rabbit). Try it on international targets and you will get your head handed to you.

 

[superskeet]

I started shooting registered targets in early 1968 at the age of 10. Broke my first 100 straight that summer after just turning 11. Being a right handed shooter with a strong left eye dominance I was a 1 eyed shooter until 1997 when I went to tape on the left lens. About a 1 1/2 ago I taught myself to shoot 2 eyes and it was the best improvement I could have made in my shooting.

I've seen this video before and the first thing that struck me is both of these guys are idiots! Has nobody even caught in watching this that the guy is shooting with NO EYE PROTECTION!!?? So that makes the guy shooting with no protection an idiot and the guy watching him without correcting him also an idiot.

Now to the subject at hand. Closing one eye is a quick fix for someone with eye dominant issues, and anything like tape, squinting, or whatever gadgets are also just quick fixes that are usually an improvement over using just one eye. The ultimate in shooting however is using both eyes open, but it is not achieved overnight. It took me a month to somewhat get comfortable shooting both eyes and over 6 months til I was very comfortable. I am now seeing the target and shooting so much better. I tried a couple of times closing one eye or trying tape just to see and I couldn't do it, I felt somewhat blinded compared to 2 eyes. A friend of mine just recently had a lesson with Todd Bender and he convinced him to switch to 2 eyes. The time table he told him to get there was almost the same as it took me. I'm not saying that 2 eyes is achievable for everyone, but probably a lot more shooters are capable of shooting 2 eyed that will not realize it without making the effort.

 

[ngaynanggm34289]

Great video from the guys at TGS outdoors featuring pro coach and World Champion Ed Solomons;

Cool uh

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[Coach Super-X]

I started shooting registered targets in early 1968 at the age of 10. Broke my first 100 straight that summer after just turning 11. Being a right handed shooter with a strong left eye dominance I was a 1 eyed shooter until 1997 when I went to tape on the left lens. About a 1 1/2 ago I taught myself to shoot 2 eyes and it was the best improvement I could have made in my shooting.

I've seen this video before and the first thing that struck me is both of these guys are idiots! Has nobody even caught in watching this that the guy is shooting with NO EYE PROTECTION!!?? So that makes the guy shooting with no protection an idiot and the guy watching him without correcting him also an idiot.

Now to the subject at hand. Anything like tape, squinting, or whatever gadgets are all just quick fixes to anyone with eye dominance issues that show results quickly and is usually an improvement over using just one eye. The ultimate in shooting however is using both eyes open, but it is not achieved overnight. It took me a month to somewhat get comfortable shooting both eyes and over 6 months til I was very comfortable. I am now seeing the target and shooting so much better. I tried a couple of times closing one eye or trying tape just to see and I couldn't do it, I felt somewhat blinded compared to 2 eyes. A friend of mine just recently had a lesson with Todd Bender and he convinced him to switch to 2 eyes. The time table he told him to get there was almost the same as it took me. I'm not saying that 2 eyes is achievable for everyone, but probably a lot more shooters are capable of shooting 2 eyed that will not realize it without making the effort.

"A right handed shooter with a strong left eye dominance" shooting with both eyes open and loving it? I thot that was not possible.

I am not cross-dominant but I teach kids who are. They require a little specialized work at first but within a few months someone who walked up and watched them shoot would never guess they are cross-dominant. I have coached some kids to very high levels in bunker, so I know what good shooting looks like. I recognize the potential when I see it. Becoming one of the top shooters in the country requires the confluence of about 50 factors, but having the "correct" eye dominance is not one of them.