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Used to be that it took 1 1/4 ounce of shot to be labeled a heavy 12 gauge field load by most of the ammo makers. Seems over the last 10 years, 1 1/8 ounce has taken on that label. You can dislike the change, but the change is out there. Generally, calling things differently than what the manufacturers label them just leads to confusion.

good luck, garrisonjoe
 
God, don't blow a blood vessel. Years ago Remington use to have over 30 different boxes of 12ga hunting loads. On their boxes they have squirrel, dove, pheasant, duck, goose, rabbit, quail, crows, snipe, you name it, they printed it. And there was different size shot for each at different velocities, and I don't think anyone back then was complaining. But then if I had my own dove fields I guess I could demand my guest to shoot whatever I thoght they should and tell everyone on the internet what is or isn't a heavy load. And your own skeet field. Now I'm really impressed.
 
Does anyone happen to know the antimony percentage of these shells? Just curious
I don't' have any info on the 12ga version but I did pattern the 20ga version.

Here are those pattern numbers. I thought they performed pretty good.

Patterns from a 20-gauge Browning Citori with 28" Invector-plus barrels and Briley flush chokes (patterns average of five, 30" post-shot scribed circle, yardage taped muzzle to target, and in-shell pellet count average of five).

20 GA 2 ¾” REMINGTON SHURSHOT HEAVY DOVE LOAD
1 oz #7 ½ lead (349 pellets) @ 1165 fps

20 YARDS – CYL / pattern 306 (88%)

30 YARDS – CYL / pattern 179 (51%)
30 YARDS – SK / pattern 221 (63%)
30 YARDS – IC / pattern 249 (71%)
30 YARDS – M / pattern 298 (85%)

40 YARDS – IM / pattern 221 (63%)
40 YARDS – LF / pattern 231 (66%)
40 YARDS – F / pattern 243 (70%)
40 YARDS – XF / pattern 247 (71%)
 
Do the remington heavy dove loads have the same hull design as gun clubs? View attachment 69379
Great post. They are a good hull to reload. Fine shell for SC and especially if you can get your hands on some 8’s. Similar to the Gun Clubs and Sport Loads that one time also had a brass washed base. Base could be a washed brass on these also. Easy enough to check with a magnet and if they are steel that’s fine, who cares.
If a Remington hull is your problem let me know. I can get some out to you. I can give you enough to keep you reloading. Can’t imagine a box full of once fired can cost that much to ship. Hate to see you buy those just for the hulls.
Your pic stirred up some controversy with the dove hunters. Those shell would work fine for that. Heck doves they can be hunted a million way and the shooter not be wrong with the shells he is using. Dove hunting I done a lot of in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s (land use, lack of farming and construction) knocked the heck out of it. I still go on occasion if I get hungry for some.
I shot a lot of 3 1/4 dram, 1 oz., 7 1/2’s and 8’s for doves. They got the job done. Years back I took a liking to a few boxes of Winchester AA Super Pigeon loads. They were 3 1/4 dram, 1 1/4 oz. shot @ 1220 fps. I’ve reloaded the factory load ever since.
When I get home I’ll dig up some of my old dove load boxes and post a pic.
 
Interesting comment and correct. I have known people to buy shells just to try reloading the hulls. The HOA shells being the most recent ones.
But seriously, if you need a hull like that I’ll give you some.
I don’t want to be a Debbie Downer but the price of all this shooting stuff is out of control. Target shells and all reloading components is out of hand. I figured if you needed hulls and was set with everything else, it would keep you going.
 
God, don't blow a blood vessel. Years ago Remington use to have over 30 different boxes of 12ga hunting loads. On their boxes they have squirrel, dove, pheasant, duck, goose, rabbit, quail, crows, snipe, you name it, they printed it. And there was different size shot for each at different velocities, and I don't think anyone back then was complaining. But then if I had my own dove fields I guess I could demand my guest to shoot whatever I thought they should and tell everyone on the internet what is or isn't a heavy load. And your own skeet field. Now I'm really impressed.
I don't demand or require my dove hunters as to what they shoot. Usually on opening day a bunch of us shoot 410's, 20's and 28's. During the 3rd and last season of the year I shoot 12 ga with 1 1/8 oz of #6's. The first and middle season I shoot 20 ga with my home poured #8s. Pics of my skeet field. 2 electronic controlled traps. One 4ft and the other at 10 ft. I set them 40 yds apart 90 degrees to each other. I have 9 shooting stations in oval in front of the two. I have left crossers, right crossers, incoming, out going and from behind you over your head. A fun little playground just 100 yds from my front door. Sadly it sits right next to my dove field so I keep it quiet until the season is over. I have a portable generator and would like to add night lights if I can figure out what I need.
I have a total dislike for all ball sports. They just never caught my interest. My motto has always been "If you can't hunt it. Hump it. Plow it or reel it in. I'm not interested". I also built my own rifle/pistol range. But that's another story
 

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I don't demand or require my dove hunters as to what they shoot. Usually on opening day a bunch of us shoot 410's, 20's and 28's. During the 3rd and last season of the year I shoot 12 ga with 1 1/8 oz of #6's. The first and middle season I shoot 20 ga with my home poured #8s. Pics of my skeet field. 2 electronic controlled traps. One 4ft and the other at 10 ft. I set them 40 yds apart 90 degrees to each other. I have 9 shooting stations in oval in front of the two. I have left crossers, right crossers, incoming, out going and from behind you over your head. A fun little playground just 100 yds from my front door. Sadly it sits right next to my dove field so I keep it quiet until the season is over. I have a portable generator and would like to add night lights if I can figure out what I need.
I have a total dislike for all ball sports. They just never caught my interest. My motto has always been "If you can't hunt it. Hump it. Plow it or reel it in. I'm not interested". I also built my own rifle/pistol range. But that's another story
I always liked baseball. Not so much the NFL anymore. Nice looking place great photos !
 
I don't demand or require my dove hunters as to what they shoot. Usually on opening day a bunch of us shoot 410's, 20's and 28's. During the 3rd and last season of the year I shoot 12 ga with 1 1/8 oz of #6's. The first and middle season I shoot 20 ga with my home poured #8s. Pics of my skeet field. 2 electronic controlled traps. One 4ft and the other at 10 ft. I set them 40 yds apart 90 degrees to each other. I have 9 shooting stations in oval in front of the two. I have left crossers, right crossers, incoming, out going and from behind you over your head. A fun little playground just 100 yds from my front door. Sadly it sits right next to my dove field so I keep it quiet until the season is over. I have a portable generator and would like to add night lights if I can figure out what I need.
I have a total dislike for all ball sports. They just never caught my interest. My motto has always been "If you can't hunt it. Hump it. Plow it or reel it in. I'm not interested". I also built my own rifle/pistol range. But that's another story
I love what you are doing there man. I’ve always had the dream if I hit the lottery big I’d buy 150 acres and build a walk through Sporting Clays Course for myself. And for friends and family. Nice pole barn for equipment storage and charging station. Have a loft bedroom and a kitchen in there so I wouldn’t have to go home.
 
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