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1100 or 11-87 for HD build?

1.6K views 14 replies 11 participants last post by  Steve Y  
#1 ·
I'm an 870 guy.
A 20 gauge Wingmaster was my 14th birthday present, I had it until it got stolen a couple years later. It was replaced with a 12 gauge Wingmaster which I still have. I have a 50's era Wingmaster with a cut down 18" barrel as it came to me. And there's the 50's era Wingmaster TB that was a police gun that wears a 20" barrel with rifle sights. And finally I have my department issue 870 with the 18" barrel. I've got plenty for home defense.

Having said all that, I really want a semi-auto "HD" gun with a short(ish) barrel. I love my 870's so something that is basically the same is what I want. I'm trying to decide which is a better starting point, an 1100 or an 11-87. I want a smooth bore, nothing rifled. I also would prefer it no longer than 20". And I would prefer it not to have the Remington factory rifle sights, although that is a really minor point.
I would like it to function with birdshot I can buy in bulk at wally-world, so practice is a lil cheaper. I do not need it to function with 3" shells. Even with buckshot and slugs I only use 2 3/4".
My thought was an 11-87 with the pressure comp, cut down and if needed enlarge the gas ports so it works with birdshot and the pressure compensation would keep it from being too rough with the buckshot.
BUT....I've had people tell me an 1100 will do that anyway. I'm not sure about the shorter barrels though.

So, I'm seeking advice and suggestions.
 
#2 ·
Yes, a field grade 1100 2 3/4" would do. I have one. Deer barrel and 23" Remchoke barrel.
Perfect combo.

Jim
 
#5 ·
I also built up an 11-87 with a 20 inch smooth bore rifle sighted barrel for a "tactical shotgun" competition where we shot buckshot at steel. I also set up a fully rifled barrel for deer hunting here in Ohio. That 11-87 was very accurate with the Winchester sabot slugs that it liked and it functioned perfectly in either configuration but good lord was it a heavy beast.
 
#9 ·
I have an 11-87 smooth bore slug gun with the rifle sights. I added a larger safety button, Choate cocking handle and a Remington 3-round magazine extension. Yeah, it’s weight, especially when compared to my inertia guns like my Benelli M2 or aluminum receiver on my Mossberg 930 SPX, is a little heavier but it’s not much worse than my gas operated Turknelli M4s.

My biggest gripe about it (and this also goes for the 1100 as well) is the carrier release button on the shell carrier. On designs that have the bolt release button on the side of the receiver below the ejection port, it’s a simple matter to roll a shell into the ejection port and send the bolt forward with one simple motion. On the Remington, you throw the shell in, then have to move to the button on the carrier and depress it. Yes, you could leave the bolt back with the shell rattling around in the receiver and send the bolt forward as you’re depressing the carrier release with the first shell you’re loading into the magazine.

And that is the other problem I have with the design is that every round loaded into the magazine tube requires the nose of the shell to depress the small carrier release button. They did make a carrier with an enlarged button but the last one I seen on eBay was starting around $200 for this fancy piece of formed sheet metal! :oops: Another option I’ve seen years ago was some sort of replacement button that looked like a long shell carrier that hung down below the receiver. Wish I could remember who made it but as much of a snagging issue that would cause leaves it as something more of a range gimmick rather than for serious work. Bottom line is that I don’t see the Remington design as a design that lends itself to quick reloading.

Here’s my 11-87 with my second Turknelli M4 out zeroing in slugs a couple months back.

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#10 ·
I wanted a soft shooting shotgun for quail hunting that I could also use for self defense if needed.
Found a 1987 M1100 that I got for a good price as the guy had sprayed camo bow paint all over for a duck hunt.
I took the 28 inch barrel w/fixed modified choke and had Bob Day cut it down to 21" and thread for Tru-Chokes.
I used a Choate mag tube extension and swapped the brass bead for a Meprolight Tritium white bead.

I liked the way it turned out but disliked the way it loads, as USMCGrunt was talking about above.
And my 1100 would short stroke if low recoil Buck or slugs were tried or any low base field load of birdshot. The gas system was tuned for high base hunting loads, not target loads.
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