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20 ga SXS, Dickinson (Akus) vs CZ Bobwhite (Huglu)

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#1 ·
It would be difficult -- if not impossible -- to improve upon the quality of the Dickinson photo's as posted by DoubleNut in this Excellent Post About the Akus/Dickinson Side-by-side Shotguns, so I won't even try to compete with those photos.

However, these photos just might prove to be helpful for anyone comparing the newer Dickinson's to the Cz/Huglu Bobwhite's in 20 ga.

Now, that said, let me state right off that I was really pleased with the overall quality, fit & finish, and performance of my older CZ Bobwhite for many years. Going into the purchase, I knew what it was -- and also, what it wasn't. It was the straight-stocked double-trigger SXS that I could afford at the time, and I was happy with it for many years. In fact, I sold it after 7 years for only $100 less than what I had originally paid.

When it came time for me to do an upgrade, I knew that I still couldn't swing or otherwise justify a $2,000 or $3,000 or more SXS, but still, I wanted something better -- and I found that in the Dickinson 20. I lucked out and got one for $1,200 at the local Cabela's (due to a trade they owed me for), so I was really pleased with that purchase.

Down below is a series of photos with the older Bobwhite 20 on the top, and the slimmer & trimmer Dickinson 20 on the bottom. I'm thinking these might help inform some other shooters.

So far, as this Dickinson is slightly longer than the CZ was (length of pull), it fits me much better, and besides the obvious external fit/finish and size differences, internally the trigger pulls of the Dickinson are way better -- lighter than the gun's weight, which could not be said about the CZ. At the range, I seem to hit better with the Dickinson, which probably says more about "fit" than anything, but I was excited about the fit from the first time I handled her.

If I was starting out and had a much smaller budget for a SXS, I would not hesitate to start again with a CZ Bobwhite. It's a solid and decent starter side-by-side, but I'm really pleased with the upgrade that I've made. (Note to self: "Can't wait to see what we may upgrade to the next time!" :wink:)

Tight groups.

Old No7

ps: I really like the "tiger stripes" too!!!

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#2 ·
Nicely put, Old No7. I'm a 16 ga fan and have the CZ Bobwhite and Ringnecks in 16 ga. They are nice, solid, reliable guns, but the triggers were heavy (fixed that) and they are on the hefty side for carrying for miles bird hunting. The 26" barrel Bobwhite weighs 7 1/4 pounds and the 28" barrel Ringneck weighs 7 1/2 pounds. I bought a few Spanish guns that all weighed right around 6 3/4 pounds, but lusted after a 16 ga along the lines of my 20 ga S&W Elite Gold with POW stock and single trigger as I have come to prefer. I finally got my Dickinson 16 ga just as I wanted it and am delighted that it weighs 6# 10 oz and is now my lightest 16 ga. Pictures and story of getting a Dickinson built my way is in the link below. They really are nice guns, especially considering the price. Glad you fell in love with yours also.

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#5 ·
aya16 said:
Same thing with the ring necks, nice well-made guns but heavy, as well as single trigger, But I have to say that 28 gauge ring neck is superb as far as weight and balance. Haven't had a chance to handle or shoot a Dickinson thanks for the pix and info.

Mike
I also have a 28 gauge Ringneck. Mine weighs 5lbs 15oz. I really like the gun but then I picked up a 28 gauge Dickinson. Mine is at my local FFL getting a recoil pad fitted so haven't had a chance to weigh it but the Cabela's advertisement said 5lbs 6oz. The best part is the Dickinson fits me as if it was made for me. It will make a nice pair with my 20 gauge Dickinson.

I like the sub gauge CZ SxS guns, but I have to say I like the Dickinsons better. They're just a finer gun.
 
#6 ·
Personally, I've always felt THE Huglu SxS guns were an excellent choice for someone wanting a SxS with classic looks for hunting and casual clays that doesn't want to spend a filthy fortune. Still think that way. That said, for the Huglu owner that decides to pony up for a $1,300 to $1,600 SxS Dickinson I can easily see the Huglu guns becoming primarily a gun for bad weather and "the thick stuff". The Huglu SxS guns look great, but head to head with a Dickinson they are the girl next door vs a supermodel. And certainly the Dickinson's seem to be of excellent quality. The only fault I find with the Dickinsons is that they require a little more TLC than the Huglus and at what they cost this broke guy would not want to take one out in a rain or snow storm or drag one through a really nasty bramble patch. Both Huglus and Dickinsons will ALWAYS have a place in my amongst my "Go-To" shotguns.
 
#7 ·
I pretty much agree with most of the above posts.

Except my current rainy-day-shotgun is a 30+ year old Winchester Model 1400 semi-auto in 12 gauge with lots of scratches, worn finish, and a repaired stock crack. Yesterday it was raining, and I used the old Winchester to bag two cock pheasants near Carlyle, Illinois. It isn't a pretty gun, but it still works fine, and has Winchokes.

gold40
 
#9 ·
I've got both in my safe (though the Akus is the S&W variety). The S&W gun is a bit lighter and trimmer as noted above but quite frankly I shoot them equally the same..., i.e., well. I've got a Dickinson in .410 and it is actually nicer than the S&W (better wood). At their price points, based on my experiences, I wouldn't be afraid of either the Bobwhite or the Dickinsons... but shop carefully as I noticed Bobwhites "on sale" at Gander this evening for $100 over suggested list! They were marked down from $200 over list. Needless to say I will not be buying any of them from Gander as I got the Bobwhite for less than list elsewhere.
 
#10 ·
GrizG said:
shop carefully as I noticed Bobwhites "on sale" at Gander this evening for $100 over suggested list! They were marked down from $200 over list. Needless to say I will not be buying any of them from Gander as I got the Bobwhite for less than list elsewhere.
There's a reason they are commonly referred to as Gouger Mountain. I have yet to see a price tag on a new gun there that isn't MSRP or higher. Their ammunition prices are no bargain, either.
 
#11 ·
I got a dog of a Dickinson 20, nothing but trouble. My Bobwhite 20 never had a problem. The Dickinson def looks nicer and its fit and finish were very nice, but like I said, I got a dog and got rid of it after the third trip back to being "repaired." I think the analogy of girl next door vs super model is good, I'll take my girl next door - especially when my girl next door is Kate Upton . . .