Congratulations JOSEPH FANIZZI on your fantastic shooting. Him and Todd Hitch, two juniors.
Unbelievable shooting on some really tough targets.
Unbelievable shooting on some really tough targets.
snooky
Congratulations to Joe Fanizzi on winning the national championship and also a big shout out to Ryan Harper on his M2 finish! It has been my pleasure to watch these two outstanding young men, who are former members of the Young Guns at Quail Creek, grow into fine gentlemen. All their hard work they have put forth over the years has come to fruition and I couldn't be more proud of you both!!
Black A400 might become the “new best thing” just like the 391was the “gun to have” with Anthony.
looks like a custom try stock, no checkering.
looks like a custom try stock, no checkering.
Other than the grip, I'm not sure he uses the stock.
He is extremely polite and great for the sport. I've squadded behind him and I don't mind his routine at all. But then, I've needed a lesson in slowing it all down and being more in the moment. YMMV, but for me I'll gladly support his routine.
He is extremely polite and great for the sport. I've squadded behind him and I don't mind his routine at all. But then, I've needed a lesson in slowing it all down and being more in the moment. YMMV, but for me I'll gladly support his routine.
I agree with the comment about new shooters starting with a semi auto and spending the extra money on shells and lessons, however some people have more money then brains and just all in when they first start. And that's ok too, to each their own.
Another thing that ruins the semi auto is the nay sayers on forums who bash them over and over and over again, and talk about how they are unreliable, need springs every x amount of shots, have to get this trigger and that spring kit etc.
Regardless incredible shooting by Joseph. I met him at the North Central Regional in 2020 at Northbrook, he came right up to me introduced himself, shook my hand, asked me my opinion on a few of the five stand targets, and then hung around and watched us shoot. As he was scheduled to shoot in a squad after us.
He has a bright future as a shooter, and I'm sure more A400's will be sold now as a credit to this young man and his recent success with that gun and that choke combo. Results sell products...........it's a truth of our industry.
Another thing that ruins the semi auto is the nay sayers on forums who bash them over and over and over again, and talk about how they are unreliable, need springs every x amount of shots, have to get this trigger and that spring kit etc.
Regardless incredible shooting by Joseph. I met him at the North Central Regional in 2020 at Northbrook, he came right up to me introduced himself, shook my hand, asked me my opinion on a few of the five stand targets, and then hung around and watched us shoot. As he was scheduled to shoot in a squad after us.
He has a bright future as a shooter, and I'm sure more A400's will be sold now as a credit to this young man and his recent success with that gun and that choke combo. Results sell products...........it's a truth of our industry.
This is a black eye on our sport. True or not true it was handled poorly. I have watched her shoot since she was barely big enough to hold up a shot gun. She has had so many accomplishments I find it hard to believe she would need to cheat to win. They are not calling it cheating, they are calling it poor sportsmanship, probably happy lawyer talk. It would be very hard for me to change my opinion of her.
Buster
Buster
Dear Nationals Competitor,
Thank you for coming to this year’s National Sporting Clays Championship. I hope you had a great time.
During the National Championship, we received a written protest of a shooter for unsportsmanlike conduct occurring on multiple stations on multiple courses. Neil Chadwick (Event Chairman and Protest Committee member) and I discussed it and put a plan into place for our staff to observe the shooter on Sunday. We observed the shooter on the K-Kup and Main Event courses. Once Neil spoke with the staff and compiled their observations, the written protest was then sent to Rick Hemingway and Martin Jones, the other two individuals on the Protest Committee. Neil and I discussed the situation with them via conference call, and all agreed that we needed to hear what the shooter had to say prior to making a final decision.
I attempted to get the shooter, Neil, and our staff that witnessed this all together prior to shoot-offs, but it was not possible. The decision was made that we could not delay all shoot-offs and the awards ceremony due to one individual; therefore, I decided to move forward with the shoot-offs and awards. The shooter in question was asked to stay, and we met with that individual and a guest of theirs in my office, along with the individuals assigned to observe the shooter on Sunday: Joe Skull, Shayne Roberson, Rod and Max Shyda, Henry Velazquez, and Nicki Bowers, along with Neil and myself. The shooter was informed of the allegations and was given an opportunity to speak. After back-and-forth dialogue between all parties, we adjourned the meeting. Monday morning, I spoke to all Protest Committee members, and there was a unanimous vote to disqualify the shooter from all events.
This is very difficult decision and was not taken lightly. I feel bad for the shooters that lost an opportunity to be recognized, but we had to make sure this was handled correctly. I have notified the individual that they have been disqualified for unsportsmanlike conduct. Lois Neely, who handles all of registration, has removed this shooter from all events and is in the process of reprocessing the event. The updated results, including punches and awards, will be available no later than Wednesday afternoon. We will not discuss who the person is or release anything about the shooter other than this statement.
Thank you all again for coming to the LARGEST SPORTING CLAYS SHOOT IN THE WORLD.
Michael Hampton, Jr.
NSSA-NSCA Executive Director
Thank you for coming to this year’s National Sporting Clays Championship. I hope you had a great time.
During the National Championship, we received a written protest of a shooter for unsportsmanlike conduct occurring on multiple stations on multiple courses. Neil Chadwick (Event Chairman and Protest Committee member) and I discussed it and put a plan into place for our staff to observe the shooter on Sunday. We observed the shooter on the K-Kup and Main Event courses. Once Neil spoke with the staff and compiled their observations, the written protest was then sent to Rick Hemingway and Martin Jones, the other two individuals on the Protest Committee. Neil and I discussed the situation with them via conference call, and all agreed that we needed to hear what the shooter had to say prior to making a final decision.
I attempted to get the shooter, Neil, and our staff that witnessed this all together prior to shoot-offs, but it was not possible. The decision was made that we could not delay all shoot-offs and the awards ceremony due to one individual; therefore, I decided to move forward with the shoot-offs and awards. The shooter in question was asked to stay, and we met with that individual and a guest of theirs in my office, along with the individuals assigned to observe the shooter on Sunday: Joe Skull, Shayne Roberson, Rod and Max Shyda, Henry Velazquez, and Nicki Bowers, along with Neil and myself. The shooter was informed of the allegations and was given an opportunity to speak. After back-and-forth dialogue between all parties, we adjourned the meeting. Monday morning, I spoke to all Protest Committee members, and there was a unanimous vote to disqualify the shooter from all events.
This is very difficult decision and was not taken lightly. I feel bad for the shooters that lost an opportunity to be recognized, but we had to make sure this was handled correctly. I have notified the individual that they have been disqualified for unsportsmanlike conduct. Lois Neely, who handles all of registration, has removed this shooter from all events and is in the process of reprocessing the event. The updated results, including punches and awards, will be available no later than Wednesday afternoon. We will not discuss who the person is or release anything about the shooter other than this statement.
Thank you all again for coming to the LARGEST SPORTING CLAYS SHOOT IN THE WORLD.
Michael Hampton, Jr.
NSSA-NSCA Executive Director
What is it with the NSCA that they protect the ill-mannered from their own actions? How many times have we seen this, where the association decides that their own reputation and credibility, has to go lower to maintain the reputation of a shooter that misbehaves?
Until there are consequences, there will always be those that do the math who believe that the small risk of getting caught acting poorly, and then being DQed is worth risking because the rewards, personal or public, are so much greater.
Looking at history, it seems there there's no real downside for those who understand that their reputation isn't going to suffer all that much, and a lot of upside to doing what they want. It doesn't matter if the shooter is intimidating the staff, otherwise acting poorly, or declaring they hit that which they didn't. Does anyone believe Husthwaite goes to sleep at night clutching his teddy bear and sobbing? He's likely happy that he doesn't have to spend gobs money to fly across the pond, and attend tournaments that have lousy payouts.
No one needs to be keel hauled by the NSCA, or dragged through mud, and no one should confuse that with outlining whatever offense occurred. Without actually telling people what the organization will not tolerate it only leaves the door open for it to happen again. Plus, the secrecy with which the board handles this sort of thing doesn't allow for sunlight, and the members being able to see if there are shooters that are being treated preferentially – or more sternly. Whether the shooter demands secrecy or not, secrecy closes the door on the shooter making legitimate amends, as they can't issue a mea culpa or shortly thereafter an apology. Coverups shouldn't be happening at all, for the betterment of the shooter, the org, and the respective event.
Shine sunlight on problems, and they'll stop happening.
Until there are consequences, there will always be those that do the math who believe that the small risk of getting caught acting poorly, and then being DQed is worth risking because the rewards, personal or public, are so much greater.
Looking at history, it seems there there's no real downside for those who understand that their reputation isn't going to suffer all that much, and a lot of upside to doing what they want. It doesn't matter if the shooter is intimidating the staff, otherwise acting poorly, or declaring they hit that which they didn't. Does anyone believe Husthwaite goes to sleep at night clutching his teddy bear and sobbing? He's likely happy that he doesn't have to spend gobs money to fly across the pond, and attend tournaments that have lousy payouts.
No one needs to be keel hauled by the NSCA, or dragged through mud, and no one should confuse that with outlining whatever offense occurred. Without actually telling people what the organization will not tolerate it only leaves the door open for it to happen again. Plus, the secrecy with which the board handles this sort of thing doesn't allow for sunlight, and the members being able to see if there are shooters that are being treated preferentially – or more sternly. Whether the shooter demands secrecy or not, secrecy closes the door on the shooter making legitimate amends, as they can't issue a mea culpa or shortly thereafter an apology. Coverups shouldn't be happening at all, for the betterment of the shooter, the org, and the respective event.
Shine sunlight on problems, and they'll stop happening.
Sad actually, I've shot with her before in NSCA events. Something similar happened to me in a NSCA Main Event on the last station I had to run the station to win class by 1 target. It was a true pair station and on the last pair, I broke the first bird and smoked the 2nd. The trapper (16 yr. old boy scout) called dead/lost. I said what? He said dead/lost and I said I smoked the 2nd. target and he said I didn't see a visible chip. I complained to the management of the shoot and they said the trappers call is final.
I know that does read kinda strange doesn’t it? I just didn’t want to leave anything out.
The process laid out in the letter seems fair. I don’t think NSCA needs to or should go into the every last detail in the letter.
I can’t explain the apparent inconsistency re her K cup event but I don’t see any reason for NSCA to lie about this.
The process laid out in the letter seems fair. I don’t think NSCA needs to or should go into the every last detail in the letter.
I can’t explain the apparent inconsistency re her K cup event but I don’t see any reason for NSCA to lie about this.
This ain’t a court of law folks……… unsportsmanlike conduct in our game is a wide range of issues.
The officials met, made a plan to observe, made a decision based on those observations according to the letter.
What more is needed, DNA sampling? You don’t need the Supreme Court to let someone know their behavior is unacceptable in the organizations big event.
The officials met, made a plan to observe, made a decision based on those observations according to the letter.
What more is needed, DNA sampling? You don’t need the Supreme Court to let someone know their behavior is unacceptable in the organizations big event.
Seems to me, by sending out a squad of observers was more than adequate.
Unlikely there’s a grand conspiracy here on the part of the NSCA.
And where do you suppose the listed complaints were coming from?
The only conclusion I can draw, is it appears the shoot officials went above and beyond to determine the complaints validity, called the shooter in to make discuss, made a decision.
Unlikely there’s a grand conspiracy here on the part of the NSCA.
And where do you suppose the listed complaints were coming from?
The only conclusion I can draw, is it appears the shoot officials went above and beyond to determine the complaints validity, called the shooter in to make discuss, made a decision.
It clearly appears to me in the least that the NSCA handled this appropriately. The NSCA staff assigned to watch are all industry pros and have seen everything involving our sport. I trust their judgement as well as the protocol in place with how this played out.
Just because a squad member on Facebook posted they thought she acted appropriately doesn't mean she did. Posters here are speaking to biases on the part of the NSCA "judges" but what about the biases of her K cup squad member? There were 400+ new attendees this year. Could the k cup squad member be one?
Just food for thought.
Dave
Just because a squad member on Facebook posted they thought she acted appropriately doesn't mean she did. Posters here are speaking to biases on the part of the NSCA "judges" but what about the biases of her K cup squad member? There were 400+ new attendees this year. Could the k cup squad member be one?
Just food for thought.
Dave
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