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28 Gauge VH Parker

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#1 · (Edited)
I'm usually found on the Winchester forum, reading and posting about model 12s, 21s and 42s, but someone I know has a 28 gauge VH Parker and he's thinking of letting it go. I know very little about Parkers, never having owned one, but I'm told that the 28 gauge is rare. I think it's an O frame. I've seen it once, briefly, and it appeared to be in very nice shape. I don't know if it has been restored or not. The barrels appeared to be 28 inches and I assume the chokes would be modified and full with that length. It points beautifully, w/double triggers and I'd guesstimate the weight at 6 pounds or so. I'm thinking I might make an offer on the gun, but I'm more than slightly out of my depth here. Assuming the gun to be as clean/original as I think it is, which I'd verify before making the purchase, what amount would be a fair offer? I've seen some sales at auction houses on line for similar Parkers for anywhere between 12 to 15K. Unfortunately, I don't have pictures of the gun at this time, and the owner hasn't come up with a number as of yet. Any guidance here would be appreciated.
 
#6 ·
Usually the Parker 28 gauge guns were built on a OO frame.
The early Parker Bros. 28-gauges were built on the 0-frame. From my observations all the 28-gauges into the 1564xx serial number range (circa 1911) I've recorded are on the O-frame. The next 28-gauge I've recorded is in the 1652xx range and is on the 00-frame (circa 1913).
 
#4 ·
map: the things you don't know about the gun make an enormous difference in value, and it is easy to make a 1000s of dollars mistake buying a vintage double. If you don't know someone in Tucson with expertise in Parker guns, it would be worth paying Dave Moore at William Larkin Moore in Scottsdale for an evaluation and appraisal.
Multiple full size images posted on the PGCA site would help, but a hands-on evaluation would be much better
Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums (parkerguns.org)
 
#7 ·
Even at the lower 5 figure level a hands on evaluation by an expert would my requirement to purchase the gun. Do not forget the extra costs tacked on to auction close valuations, typically at least ten percent is that buyers premium. My good friend now deceased funded a nice chunk of his retirement with a 1967 big block Corvette which he had purchased a couple decades prior. My point? He paid a nationally known expert to travel and evaluate the car, other than one replacement valve cover the car was bone stock and 100% original. It is how one turns 5 figures in to six.
 
#8 ·
I had the chance to see the Parker again this afternoon. My bore gauge read .548 on both barrels. The left choke came in at 19 thou and the right at 11 or so. It's definitely an O frame and has been refinished. LOP is 14" from the front trigger and 13 and change from the rear, with a widow's peak dog's head plate and grip cap. When I get home I'll upload the dozen or more pictures I took with my Nikon and also get on the PGCA site to see what I can find out there. Thanks again to all who took the time to weigh in on this. It is appreciated.
 
#13 ·
Looks like an older restoration that was not quite properly done. The top-lever and safety slide should be color case hardened, not blued. The edges of the trigger plate screws are rounded over, not as perfectly square as they should be.

The PGCA has records for 106284. You could join the PGCA and get a letter on the gun.
 
#16 ·
I posted the same pictures on the PGCA general discussion forum for their opinions. The consensus on the gun was decidedly negative, so I'm going to pass on this particular 28. For those who might be interested, the link to the thread is this: