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.410 Cylinder Choke

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#1 ·
I'm considering a .410 S X S sidelock double that is factory choked CYL/IC for non-competitive Skeet shooting and a little Woodcock hunting. I would have hoped it were a little tighter, but it is what it is. In your opinion, is this too loose to result in satisfactory breaks at skeet distance targets?
 
#3 ·
I haven't shot skeet in 20 years. I have been thinking of buying a CYL choke tube for my 28 gauge O/U for this purpose, giving me SK (first shot) and CYL (second shot). Is this a good idea? Either way, I have to buy another choke tube, whether it is CYL or SK. I already have 1 SK tube. Thanks!
 
#5 ·
I agree that choke selection for .410 skeet shooting
is not of great significance for one or two steps but,
a full choke can affect your score adversely.
If your gun has fixed chokes, run what ya brung and
have fun!
If you can select your chokes for skeet, simply choose
skeet and skeet.
As previously stated, shoot the closer target with the cyl.
barrel.
Double triggers add to the fun. However, with field guns,
I tend to forget about the automatic safety.
Oops!
 
#7 ·
GC7shooter said:
I haven't shot skeet in 20 years. I have been thinking of buying a CYL choke tube for my 28 gauge O/U for this purpose, giving me SK (first shot) and CYL (second shot). Is this a good idea? Either way, I have to buy another choke tube, whether it is CYL or SK. I already have 1 SK tube. Thanks!
I don't mind using CYL in my 12 ga, because I shoot 1 1/8 oz, so I have plenty of pellets to fill the larger shot pattern. I'd be a little cautious in 28 and especially 410, as you can get some open voids in your pattern in a hurry.

Also, I don't think you'll see much difference in your scores using a cyl vs. skt in a 28 ga.
 
#9 ·
I have experimented with cylinder (no) choke for skeet. What I have found is that in 12, 20 and 28 gauges and #9 shot you still get enough pattern for satisfactory breaks. 410 though you have so little shot to work with and a long shot column some amount of choke is needed. I shoot very old Briley tubes with fixed chokes. The bottom 410 tube is about what you would want for skeet. The top tube though is very tight, like it is choked full. To get the best score I can I shoot all the singles and the first shot of doubles with the bottom tube. Seems to work for me...
 
#10 ·
I really wanted this gun in the aforementioned link above, but was concerned about the lack of any constriction in the right barrel. So before calling Robin Hollow I gave Mike Orlen a call this morning to inquire what could be done to add some choke via choke sleeving if the Cyl choke of this gun didn't work out. Mike told me there were several makers of .410 skeet guns built factory choked .000/.000, the Winchester 101 was one of them.
 
#11 ·
My 28 gauge Benelli Legacy came with only a cylinder bore and modified chokes.

The mod worked fine, even being a bit too tight.

The cylinder choke did not break skeet birds worth a hoot!

Patterned it, and you could throw medium sized dogs through the holes in the pattern
The pattern was so big at 20 yards that it couldn't fit on a full sized news paper sheet!

Ordered a Briley skeet choke and everything became fine.
 
#12 ·
I would not consider cyl for 410 and view it opposite as stated above....I would worry less about a few thousands in the 12 ga than the 410 where the speed of the shells you shoot (i.e. STS vs AA) can have fair effect on what choke to use.

If you want more info on this, try to raise David Marcum on the reloading forum or search for DLM and 410.
 
#13 ·
I agree completely with Baron.
At the moment, I have two .410s that I use for wobble skeet and very much prefer the full choked gun over the IC or better, and the IM choked one.
 
#14 ·
jugchoke said:
I agree completely with Baron.
At the moment, I have two .410s that I use for wobble skeet and very much prefer the full choked gun over the IC or better, and the IM choked one.[/quote

Mote point since the gun in question sold....but, I like much more choke in the 410. I do not like to see softball size holes in the patterns...heck, I don't even like seeing 410 patterns period! Frankly, at skeet ranges tighter often does not make as much difference as you may think it does...there is just too little shot to work with.

A smaller, tighter pattern is good for my head...when the bird does not break, I know without a doubt, I missed it. I like the harder hits. Your mileage may vary wildly.