I’ve spent over year now with my Charles Daly Triple Crown 410/28ga shooting my personal TSS hand loads at waterfowl. I can say for me personally it is hands down the best 410 for waterfowl hunting!

I do not have to chase hulls which is the primary reason I bought it..

It has 26” Barrel and swings suoer

It has 3 separate chokes!! I run a lot of Cylinder, Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, but also run Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, Mod.
I often times change my chokes in the field depending on how the birds are flying.

This past fall I shot 150grs (just less than 3/8oz) of #9.5 TSS @ 1700 FPS at woodies.. it hammered them out to 40+ yards!

I shot 150grs and 175grs of #8s, and #9s @ 1675 FPS at large ducks and geese out to 45-50 yards and it again, hammered them!

I did load some of my 1/2oz loads of #8s, #9s and #9.5s @ 1500 FPS, but often times found that 150grs or 175grs was more than enough!

If you are at all contemplating buying one, I strongly suggest one!

 

Great post ! On time as I just shot a friend’s identical shotgun last week . I remember thinking “ Duck Blind “ as I smoked a 3 bird flurry . I’ve been loading and shooting 410 1/2 oz #9 TSS for decoying ducks but your 3/8 loads sound interesting. What data are you using , if you don’t mind .

 

Good morning!

All of the loads that I shoot are data that I have developed personally and had tested professionally by Precision Reloading. From 150gr up to 328grs in 2.5” and then 1/2oz to 15/16oz in 3” Hulls.

 

I’m quite happy with the 1/2 oz #9 TSS load I have been shooting, just trying to broaden my horizons. Currently I’m testing chokes and patterns for next season. Cyl / Skt 1 in my O/U and S/S are patterning nicely for decoy ranges at this point . Happy hunting………

 

Shoot me a PM, and we can talk about it!

 

This looks interesting! I thought the Chiappa triple guns went away. I see they're under the Daly banner now. I'd be interested in a 28 ga. with 28 inch barrels.

 

Unfortunately I don’t think they. Make 28” barrels. Mine is 26” for both 410 and 28ga

 

28" barrels are available, but not in .410. https://www.charlesdaly.com/category/gun/shotgun/triple-barrel

 

That would appear to be the Empire Grade two barrel set only. The straight 28 gauge is 26 inch. https://www.charlesdaly.com/product/930.082/triple-crown-shotgun-white-28ga-26-bbl

 

Interesting gun. I thought getting choke tubes for ab o/u or sxs was expensive.😃 Really like the idea of not losing hulls. My SA likes to shuck them into the river and those little 410 hulls don't float like 20 or 12 ga.

 

lol. You’re not lying! I have $200 in chokes in it pretty much now haha. Once Comp N Chokes come back in stock, I’ll probably be at like $250+ in chokes 😅

 

I’ve spent over year now with my Charles Daly Triple Crown 410/28ga shooting my personal TSS hand loads at waterfowl. I can say for me personally it is hands down the best 410 for waterfowl hunting!

I do not have to chase hulls which is the primary reason I bought it..

It has 26” Barrel and swings suoer

It has 3 separate chokes!! I run a lot of Cylinder, Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, but also run Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, Mod.
I often times change my chokes in the field depending on how the birds are flying.

This past fall I shot 150grs (just less than 3/8oz) of #9.5 TSS @ 1700 FPS at woodies.. it hammered them out to 40+ yards!

I shot 150grs and 175grs of #8s, and #9s @ 1675 FPS at large ducks and geese out to 45-50 yards and it again, hammered them!

I did load some of my 1/2oz loads of #8s, #9s and #9.5s @ 1500 FPS, but often times found that 150grs or 175grs was more than enough!

If you are at all contemplating buying one, I strongly suggest one!

Where are these triple barrel guns made? Turkey? Thanks

 

Probably Turkey lol. Chiappa/Charles Daly

 

Yup, did a little more digging. It's made by Akkar in Turkey. Under the Akkar label one can get that gun in a 28 gauge with 28 inch tubes. If only with a Daly. I would think the 26 inch barrels would be too whippy. Maybe over decoys it's fine. You seem to be doing o.k. with your 410. I'm assuming you used the 410 in those photos. Or, did you use the 28? 150 grains sounds like a 410 load to me.

 

Here is the 28" 28ga from Akkar:

Mammut 328 Silver

In their 410 28 combo, they are 26". The 28ga is 2.75 chamber, 410 is 3in.

Same for the Charles Daly version. Chiappa doesnt list them anymore.

If I could get 3in 28ga chambers, and 28" barrels, i would really be considering the 28 410 combo.

 

Are you the real Dave in AZ? I love your forum on waterfowl and TSS!

my 28ga has a 3” chamber I believe. I’ll verify when I get home.
26” barrels are perfect for waterfowl in my opinion with TSS waterfowl loads. Especially 410 where you want the pattern to open up.

 

@fowlogic thx much! I looked at all the Tristar and Browning guns online earlier. I didn't see the difference between cypher and trinity Ii, thx for that.

They do show 3in chambers on the specs now. However, I'm not willing to buy a gun mis-stamped, as I don't trust it to meet 14k psi specs without proper markings...

I do like the Tristar offerings. Wish the Cynergy came 28ga, think they used to, I like it better than Citori. But so far, the Trinity looks like my best 3 in ou option for a "just for fun" gun.

 

@fowlogic thx much! I looked at all the Tristar and Browning guns online earlier. I didn't see the difference between cypher and trinity Ii, thx for that.

They do show 3in chambers on the specs now. However, I'm not willing to buy a gun mis-stamped, as I don't trust it to meet 14k psi specs without proper markings...

I do like the Tristar offerings. Wish the Cynergy came 28ga, think they used to, I like it better than Citori. But so far, the Trinity looks like my best 3 in ou option for a "just for fun" gun.

Dave, talked to Tristar this morning. All their guns now take Beretta/Benelli Mobil choke tubes. Carlson's is having a 15 percent off ending today. I ordered three tubes. The portion of the Cypher bores where the choke tubes sit may be too tight. These chokes may not fit even though they're the right thread etc. I may have to get a Daly Triple Crown just to use the Carlson's choke tubes. Imagine that. Having to buy another new gun to use three new choke tubes. You may have guessed there's no boss(wife) to have to run that one by!! Yup, I'm still interested in the Triple Crown 28.

 

Oddly ppl here often go for .410 over 12gauge moderated subsonics.
About 13grains of powder if not less gets you quieter still. Those hushpower are quiet, fully shrouded battel moderator.

I have seen a sxs version.

my "in " this was getting my friend decent subsonic shells.
mainly flattening rabbits in the dark, quiet.
he actually got bored of reloading full stop, it was too long between batches and he had to re-learn and relearn what he was shooting.
those days we were reloading 1,1/8oz, lead,

 

The Carlson's choke tubes came Thursday and all three fit the Cypher. The bodies(OD) measure 0.611". The threaded portion is 0.635". My factory full is 0.611 and 0.632. It's a snug fit too. In the ordering notes at Carlson's I mentioned these numbers and that their tubes might be too big to fit. The constrictions of the Carlson's are 0.541, 0.538, and 0.535. The 0.541 is a little persnickety to get started, but there is no damage to it or the barrels. So, looks like I lost an excuse to get the 28 gauge Daly Triple Crown. But, there's still hope!! If I go that route I'll post up. Idaho Guns has a Boise location and they list the Triple Crown's. Three shots from a fixed breech gun. Never thought that could be in my future.

 

I saw on ShopMyExchange.com for military, they have this gun for sale still as Chiappa triple. Was thinking about it...

 

So, I broke down today and ordered a Triple Crown in 28 gauge. I traded in my Versamax Waterfowl Pro. It was new in '15 and had less than a box of shells through it. Nothing wrong with it and was in new-like condition. Got a good price on the Triple Crown, but not much on the trade. I have a spare barrel and some parts that I'll list here at SW. I'll post up when the new '28' comes in. The new Triple Crown's are supposed to have Mobil Chokes, not Remchokes. The part numbers are slightly different. They have a 'dot' in the number. The new 28 ga. is 930.082 as opposed to 930082. The UPC is 8053670717466. I think the UPC for the older guns is different too. Already got three Carlson 28 ga. Mobil Choke tubes and Trulock and Carlson's don't stock 28 ga. Remchoke tubes. At least when I last looked.

 

Nice. Who did you buy from? ... still looking.

 

I'm getting confused looking at all these conflicting dealer pages, they show no chamber info or conflicting. Does anyo e have the 27ga triple crown in a 3" chamber?

 

Dave, there is no 3 inch chamber in 28 gauge unfortunately! Quite sure that all seller's descriptions to the contrary are in error. I ordered any way. With bismuth and TSS I'll be covered for my modest needs. The Akkar Mammut in 28 gauge does come in 28 inch barrels. Akkar makes the Triple Crown for Charles Daly/Chiappa, but as we know the Daly version only comes in 26". I think all versions of the 28 ga. three-barrel gun are short-chambered. Drat!!! My new Citori and Cypher take 3 inch, so I'll have to be careful with loaded shells.

 

Just curious, do you stick with the 410 even in high winds?

 

I shoot it in all conditions... TSS doesn't discriminate to weather.......

 

Anybody use this gun for dove hunting? I have been considering one but not a big fan of extractors I prefer the ejectors.

 

I’ve spent over year now with my Charles Daly Triple Crown 410/28ga shooting my personal TSS hand loads at waterfowl. I can say for me personally it is hands down the best 410 for waterfowl hunting!
It has 3 separate chokes!! I run a lot of Cylinder, Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, but also run Cylinder, Improved Cylinder, Mod.

Cylinder choke in a .410 seems like a good way to get thin patterns at anything over 20 yards...... no?

 

No, not for tss. Tss in a 410, you can get 15" patterns usable for turkey with cylinder. It doesn't spread at all. This is why we usually load a bit of steel on top, which disrupts the denser tss as it moves thru in flight, and spreads the pattern. Even just a little steel will greatly improve 410 and 28ga tss patterns for waterfowl, and is the primary reason for duplex tss loads--purely pattern improvement.

There are a ton of 410 tss patterns posted on turkey sites, you would be amazed how it holds together.

Often we get more spread patterns by moving from cylinder to IC or Mod--the bell effect on the hard shot can make it rebound coming out of choke and spread out more than the undisturbed cylinder choke! You definitely have to pattern the 410 with tss for waterfowl to see what you're actually getting.

But for lead, you are completely correct I shot 2 rounds of skeet yesterday with my 410 tubes, and decided to replace the 0.005 chokes with some 0.008 chokes that came with tubes... just too spread out at 25yds when I shot a few patterns. Yah, that was the problem for sure, not my skilz!