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America still paying survivor's benefits for the Civil War

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#1 ·
Two children of aged Civil War veterans who fathered children in their old age are still drawing disabled children's survivor benefits 148 years after the war ended, and over 50 years after the last veteran died.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-cost ... ars-2013-3

They may be children of Confederate veterans. One is from North Carolina and the other was from Tennessee. At first the Yankees only paid for their own veterans, but many years after the war ended, and there weren't too many veterans left on either side, they opened it up for Confederate veterans, too. After all, we are all Yankees now.:)
 
#5 ·
The inclusion of Confederate veterans as veterans of the United States wasn't made by Congress until 1958, and after the last Confederate veteran had died. But, that would have still left open survivor's benefits for surviving widows and dependent, disabled children,,,,so the two still living could be Confederates. The Southern states often paid their own state pensions to Confederate veterans, and Texas didn't stop paying survivor's benefits until 1975. Missouri had a Confederate veteran's home until until the late 1940's, and even yet the site at is maintained as a shrine.

It's not that we didn't fight those Yankees. There were just too many of them to whip. I grew up hearing this old song, and we still play and sing it sometimes. This version is by Hoyt Axton:


This other song doesn't have any cuss words in it, and is sung more often at music jams. I've usually heard it called it "The Dying Rebel Soldier", but it has other names. It's a makeover of "Will My Soul Pass Through Ireland":

 
#7 ·
Now here there,,,,,,, we don't want any danged facts to get in the way of the great truth that the South and her noble cause was overwhelmed by masses of hireling soldiers, and our banner fell without stain or blemish.:)
 
#8 ·
So, we're still paying benefits to Civil War descendants, How does this matter?

More concerning is that we are paying SS benefits to Cubans and others that have never paid into the system, but have aided in draining the resources of the system.

Glad to know ya got yer priorities straight on this one, sx1.
 
#9 ·
870shooter said:
So, we're still paying benefits to Civil War descendants, How does this matter?

More concerning is that we are paying SS benefits to Cubans and others that have never paid into the system, but have aided in draining the resources of the system.

Glad to know ya got yer priorities straight on this one, sx1.
That's racist! :lol:
 
#11 ·
I wouldn't know about Cubans drawing social security benefits they didn't pay into the system for,,,,,but you can still kind of, sort of, buy a cigar that claims to have a "substantial portion of pre-embargo Cuban filler". Or so they say:

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/ciga ... e-embargo/

The Cuban embargo didn't include any tobacco then legally imported into the United States in 1962, and there's still some pre-embargo Cuban tobacco out there over a half a century later.

But as for Social Security, there's no need to be alarmed. The system has never missed a payment since the first checks went out to Ida Mae Fuller in 1940, the system has 2.8 trillion dollars in trust funds, and it's solvent without raising any payroll taxes or for at least twenty years, after which Congress could raise the earnings cap and continue to pay benefits without reduction or raising payroll taxes.

We'll even pay all the pensions of the war vets, too.
 
#12 ·
SuperXOne said:
I wouldn't know about Cubans drawing social security benefits they didn't pay into the system for,,,,,but you can still kind of, sort of, buy a cigar that claims to have a "substantial portion of pre-embargo Cuban filler". Or so they say:

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/ciga ... e-embargo/

The Cuban embargo didn't include any tobacco then legally imported into the United States in 1962, and there's still some pre-embargo Cuban tobacco out there over a half a century later.

But as for Social Security, there's no need to be alarmed. The system has never missed a payment since the first checks went out to Ida Mae Fuller in 1940, the system has 2.8 trillion dollars in trust funds, and it's solvent without raising any payroll taxes or for at least twenty years, after which Congress could raise the earnings cap and continue to pay benefits without reduction or raising payroll taxes.

We'll even pay all the pensions of the war vets, too.
That's like saying "I can't afford to pay the interest on my mortgage but I can still afford ammo".
 
#13 ·
There is probably much you don't know because you refuse to pull your head out of the wonder world you choose to dream of.

SS is funded only via IOU's as has been pointed out to you numerous times.

Your wonder party approved a bill back in the 60's, that allowed cubans, over the age of 65 to come to amerika and collect full benifits as if they had worked and paid into the system.

but I know I am wasting time here because you refuse to see what trash your kind has done to this once great country.

have another swig of koolaid...
 
#14 ·
If all our government programs were like Social Security, we'd have no problems at all with government programs.

SS is funded by a payroll tax on the first $110,000 of every worker's income. The total tax rate is 12.2%. Benefits are calculated on how much the worker pays in. In the last thirty years, that payroll tax has (thanks to a 1983 reform commission under Ronald Reagan) generated over 2.8 trillion dollars in excess revenue, which has been invested in special United States Treasury bonds, which are part of the national debt, and which pay 4% interest. About 160 million workers pay the benefits of about 57 million retirees and disabled persons, and for all I know it might include a few old Cubans,,,but that's not how the system is funded. It's been solvent for the 73 years we've paid retirement benefits and could be made solvent,,,if we need to do anything at all,,,,by raising that $110,000 cap if those bonds are ever depleted, and that might not ever happen. If the nation's economy keeps on growing and payrolls keep on rising, the system will not need any tweaking.

The Republican party that I once supported has been taken over with pessimists, defeatists, and gloom and doomers that think our still great, wealthy, and growing country is doomed to failure, and that we are going broke very soon.

Don't believe them for one second. The United States is growing, and will keep on moving forward, in spite of the naysayers. Sooner or later, the Republicans will come up with a leader like Ronald Reagan, who was always an optimist, never hateful, and referred to America as a shining city on a hill and the last best hope for mankind. Republicans aren't the problem,,,the problem lies with Republican party leadership, which reveres the memory of Ronald Reagan and yet forgets Reagan's constantly positive and optimistic message.

I didn't leave my party. My party left me. For all their faults and foibles, the Democratic party believes in a brighter future for the United States, and I could never support any party that didn't.