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are Muller choke tubes really worth the money...

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#1 ·
I'm looking for some aftermarket extended sporting choke tubes for my 12 gauge 686 Beretta and have narrowed it down to either Muller IC/LM or Carlson's Black Oxide extended sporting choke tubes in the same constrictions. The Muller's are twice the price!! Are they worth it, or not. If yes, why!?! Looking for serious input...
 
#5 ·
May I ask in all seriousness what is wrong with the chokes Beretta supplied with the gun? Do you honestly believe that buying expensive after market chokes will make a significant difference to your shooting? I only ask because I don't. I think that the same money spent on a couple of lessons with a professional coach would have a more beneficial effect.
 
#7 ·
That would depend on the pattern board, they may pattern better with the load you shoot, or they may not. The only problem is you have to buy them and pattern them with your load to find out if they are better or not. They may not pattern any better than the ones that came with the gun. Buy both sets, pattern them, then let us know if it was worth it or not. :D :D

cdb
 
#8 ·
I had a set of Muller for my Guerini. I couldn't see any differance in them over the factory ones beside the weight. I traded them for another set of factory Guerini chokes. Now I can double up when need.

I think Muller Chokes are made well but not worth the extra money.

But as we know if you pay more for something it got to be better.
 
#9 ·
If IC/LM is what you are looking for, you only need one Muller choke - that's U2.

I like them for the way they break targets, for their very light weight, they don't work loose while shooting, and they don't collect plastic or lead deposits that need cleaning out.

To me, yes they are worth the money.
 
#10 ·
I agree 100% with Seamus :D I use to feel/think the same as a lot of folks did,until I got a pair of U2's for my Mobil choked Beretta and started using them. I wish I had gone to them sooner as another poster claimed. :D

I've already sold almost all of my other Mobil chokes :wink: Any one need a couple :D

Well worth it to me.
 
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DavidM100 said:
May I ask in all seriousness what is wrong with the chokes Beretta supplied with the gun? Do you honestly believe that buying expensive after market chokes will make a significant difference to your shooting? I only ask because I don't. I think that the same money spent on a couple of lessons with a professional coach would have a more beneficial effect.
Not to be snide, but I've been actively shooting sporting clays since 1993 and enlisted the services of Anthony Matarese and Dan Carlisle on a number of occasions when I began.

Now, do you have any constructive comments concerning Muller choke tube!?!
 
#13 ·
Not to me. I have never shot one, but I have shot enough of the others or seen them shot to believe that 99.99% of the differences are between the ears relative to pattern performance. They may be easier to clean, but that hasn't been a big chore for me anyway. You can usually tell by eyeball which tubes are going to be harder to clean, and if I get one that looks rougher inside than it's counterparts I exchange it.
I do not want to alter the weights of any my barrels; especially not lighter. I do not care if they don't shoot loose or not, because I just use my fingers anyway and check frequently.
The only thing that might change my mind would be if they were steel/tungsten approved, and I found out George Diggweed uses them.
 
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I bought Mullers for my Benelli SS. They do not collect plastic or lead, they stay tight, they pattern at least as well as any other system and I really like that Muller makes only a few constrictions and keeps it simple. Besides that, there are no ports, wad stoppers or other gimmicks, just a well thought out choke that does a good job.

They look nice to boot. A bit pricey, but a good product.

I have to admit, that I would never have bought Muller chokes, because I really didn't see the big deal. I ended up shooting on a squad with Jim Muller. We talked a bit, he didn't talk nonsense and he is a straight up guy. So I tried his chokes. Glad I did.
 
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I was looking for extended chokes for my 20 gauge Beretta because all I had were flush. I thought all chokes were the same and I know Jimmy, so why not purchase from a local guy. I like a lot of things about them; they are easy to clean, they have the same feel as my flush chokes, I don't have to worry about tightening them every 2 stations, and I don't have to think if I need IC or LM. Screw in a U2 and go.

I liked them so much in my 20, I bought them for my 28. I like them so much in the 28 that I shoot them in my main gun now. I started with the U3/U3, but have backed off a little recently to U2/U2 for most stuff.

Note: I shoot targets, not paper. I let the other guys worry about counting holes in paper and figuring out the theoretical maximum blah, blah, blah. I like how they break targets.
 
#22 ·
Seamus O'Caiside said:
If IC/LM is what you are looking for, you only need one Muller choke - that's U2.

I like them for the way they break targets, for their very light weight, they don't work loose while shooting, and they don't collect plastic or lead deposits that need cleaning out.

To me, yes they are worth the money.
+1, in spades!
 
#24 ·
Eddav72 said:
Seamus O'Caiside said:
If IC/LM is what you are looking for, you only need one Muller choke - that's U2.

I like them for the way they break targets, for their very light weight, they don't work loose while shooting, and they don't collect plastic or lead deposits that need cleaning out.

To me, yes they are worth the money.
+1, in spades!
Says the man with the only Fabarms Muller in existence!