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#1 ·
Guys I have been lurking on here for awhile and I now need to ask for assistance.

I recently purchased this shot gun from a friend of a friend who was cleaning out the safe for health issues. I don't really know too much about the gun other than I can't seem to hit a pheasant with it nor get a 2nd shot off. That is due to my own incompetence in being able to find the second trigger. ;o;

Can any of the experts tell me something about the gun, such as value, choke, age and such other info.

Thanks for the help.
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#3 ·
The date code looks to be E*1 which would be 1959
Cornell Pubs has a 1960 catalog repro which would show the model

900 kg/cm2 proof would be for a service pressure of about 9500 psi
The barrels are not steel proved.
 
#5 ·
When I shoot with two triggers, I am telling myself "Front, Back. Front, Back. Near, Far, Near, Far" and I practice slipping my finger from front to back as I say this. I say it a lot!

After missing a few birds, it's now much easier. I have yet to select the tighter choke due to how a bird presents, but it's interesting to have the option.

Those Ayas are nice shotguns. I like the light weight. I would not put big booming shells through it, because I don't think they are generally needed. An ounce and a quarter at 1220 fps is plenty of medicine for most pheasants, and that's choked like a pheasant gun. Even an ounce of #6 is not irresponsible for the bird. If you hit, it goes down hard. If you miss, you miss. It's very rare to be inbetween.

Very nice.
 
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You guys are of tremendous help. 😊

Yes, it has 2 3/4"chambers and the weight is around the 7 lb mark. I have shot a couple of older 1.5 oz loads that the gentlemen had and trust me, w/o a recoil pad, you know when you pull the trigger.

Does anyone have a guess on what model it could be?

Besides not being able to hit anything with it yet, it is a beautiful gun and I enjoy carrying it. However, I believe that my dog starts to sulk 🙄 when I pull it out, as he knows that we are just exercising and shooting with no reward forthcoming.
 
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ColoGregs, very nice.

A detachable sidelock ejector based (copied!) on the famous Holland and Holland "Royal" model, AYA made a number of these, which were represented in UK press adverts in the 60s as an affordable substitute for the increasingly valuable London "best" versions, which were better preserved in glass cabinets. One of the features of the original "Royal" may or may not be present; the self (or easy) opening action. Disc set strikers were standard. Usually cocking indicators have a gold inlaid slot that contrasts with the finish, but I don't see that on your gun, so again it might not be functional.

I think I've seen some with a colour case hardened action as opposed to the coin finish on yours.

Yes, it has 2 3/4"chambers and the weight is around the 7 lb mark. I have shot a couple of older 1.5 oz loads that the gentlemen had and trust me, w/o a recoil pad, you know when you pull the trigger.
Errr .... I wouldn't do that, I echo Stinkypete's opinion. What you have is a medium game gun, not a heavy load pigeon gun. The Proof pressure of 900Kg shows that; a pigeon gun would be Proofed at 1200Kg, and be rather heavier that 7lbs.

I don't know what the pressure of those big shells is but regardless of safety (which I don't disregard, you should look into it) sidelocks can be damaged by heavy recoil. They have a very small area of wood in the stock head bearing on the action body so the stock will split and crack if misused. This has been proved by experiment. :confused:

So it isn't just you that's being discomforted, the gun don't like it either.

Best of luck,

Added as an afterthought ... because the locks are detachable doesn't mean you should detach them; must better left to a gunsmith that knows his trade.
 
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It is the pin (screw) that holds the sidelocks to the frame. It's called hand-detachable because it serves a a lever to remove the pin so that a screwdriver is not required. You need to be sure that it is fully tight so that it does not fall out and get lost or, even worse, a lock plate is lost. Yes, it has happened.
 
#21 ·
Yes, turn until it is tight. The screw has a standard thread - righty tighty, lefty loosey.

I remove my lock plates every 2 or 3 years to clean and lubricate or if they get wet. My wife's Grulla has a slotted screw instead of the lever and I ground a Mag-Tip bit for an exact fit so I wouldn't bugger the screw slot.