Since Beretta's customer service is so notoriously slow and Rich Cole is soooooo good, I'd send it to Cole Guns. They are more than fair about not gouging you and quite fast.

 

Blue loctite.

 

Blue loctite.

Yup :wink: Mine's not a 692 but that's what I used when I had the same problem and that was a couple of years ago and hasn't worked loose since.

 

Blue loctite.

Yup :wink: Mine's not a 692 but that's what I used when I had the same problem and that was a couple of years ago and hasn't worked loose since.

+2 Worked like a charm for me too.

Chris

 

I hadn't used the Loctite yet but when I shot last night it not only came loose but the top barrel ejector quit ejecting. When I took off the forearm and barrel I saw that there is a little deal on the side of the barrel that the slide for the ejector was catching on. I pushed the ejector in a little because it was out slightly and it pushed hard like it had a heavy spring and then took a little screw driver and flipped the metal piece holding the ejector slide and the ejector popped out. Then I shot the gun and after a couple of shots it did the same thing again. I did the same routine and the same thing happened after a couple of shots. I took my gun home and cleaned it very well. Does the loose forearm affect the ejector? I do keep the gun clean but never thought to clean that little piece of metal and the spring that must be in there. Could it be it just needed to be cleaned and that's why the ejector wasn't working? I did clean it very well after shooting and we will see what happens.

 

I've no idea if the loose forearm is causing the screw to move on its own but what you're describing is a "feature" of the 692, ejectors that can be converted to extractors. Read your manual, it should be covered there.

IMO, that's just something more than can go wrong. Not that ejection vs. extraction is critical to the function of the gun but it's an annoyance if it changes on its own. A buddy's 692 does this as well, change on its own to extraction mode.

 

After all the issues with the discontinued Prevail you think they would have scrapped the ejector/extractor feature.

 

Rather than use Loctite which can be a little too aggressive when trying to remove a screw at a later date, I would suggest using a drop of varnish (nail varnish?) on the screw threads.
Sadly 692's do seem to have more than their fair share of reliability problems. If these problems persist I would recommend contacting your supplier to get the matter resolved to your full satisfaction.

 

Loose forend wood could easily cause this problem. When the gun is closed and the ejector springs fully compressed, the little selector thingy isn't under any tension. It is the shoulder of the forend wood where it butts against the metal that holds the selector in position. Any slop in the wood and the selector could move with the vibration of firing and it only needs a few degrees to deselect eject mode. The whole forend needs to be firm and secure on these guns which is probably why they have a built in tensioner.

This is not the same problem as on the very early SV10s which many owners made worse by letting their gunsmiths take a file to the ejectors instead having them replaced under warranty. Hence a trivial matter that didn't stop the gun from being used became an issue that prejudiced the reputation of a truly outstanding shotgun; now reborn with a couple of tweaks as the 692.

 

Rather than use Loctite which can be a little too aggressive when trying to remove a screw at a later date, I would suggest using a drop of varnish (nail varnish?) on the screw threads.

Don't ever use nail polish on screws. It's often water based and it will rust the screw and fuse it in place. Blue loctite is very benign and can be broken with hand tools and no heat. Furthermore, it's an anti-corrosive and helps prevent the same rust that nail polish creates.

 

While Blue loctite doesn't require the 500 degree heat like red, it's still too strong for anything under 1/4 that requires finesse. May I suggust either green loctite ment for scope rings or super glue. Super glue being the much cheaper option.

 

My "discontinued" Prevail III is the finest shotgun I've ever owned.

 

I use Vibra-TITE VC-3 Threadmate. It looks and acts like rubber cement. I have used it for years and it has never failed me. I put it on almost all screws now. It only takes a little, a couple of threads worth, and is easy to unscrew, but holds tight.

 

After all the issues with the discontinued Prevail you think they would have scrapped the ejector/extractor feature.

Sorry, I missed something..

I was in the market of buying one of these..Seems to be a love/hate relationship with this gun with most users..
I thought this was a new addition to the Beretta lineup?

 

It is, an inferior product, the same as the Perazzi MXS designed to part fools from their money!
Sad but true, quality standards and product pride and finish seem to be slipping down the drain.
The 692 has had more issues since its launch than any other Beretta gun, and the Perazzi MXS looks like a Taiwan replica. Just my opinion of course.

 

I was in the market of buying one of these..Seems to be a love/hate relationship with this gun with most users..
I thought this was a new addition to the Beretta lineup?

Like I said, with the first production batch there was a minor flaw in the design of the ejectors. Here in the UK they were fixed under warranty and no one's heard any more of the problem for at least 4 years. Because of delays etc., many Americans were reluctant to return their SV10s to Beretta for what appeared to be a simple ejector timing problem and took their guns to the local gunsmith for 'adjustment'. Unfortunately this usually didn't cure the problem so the shotgun forums lit up with angry posts loading all the blame on Beretta and their new gun. Yes there was a fault, but Beretta had a fix out very early on. However the damage was done and the result is that there are many on SGW who consider the SV10 a poor gun simply because of an easily resolved trivial issue which never prevented anyone from shooting.

Look through the thread history on the SV10 Prevail and see if you can find anyone who owns one and has anything other than praise for the gun.

I've said this before and I'll go on saying it, I've owned or shot just about every version of the 686, 687 and 682 range of sporting guns and the SV10 Prevail, in my hands, is a real step up in performance, shootability and handling over any of them. And that is why the 692 (despite salopian's venom :wink: ) is closely based on the SV10 rather than the 682 and, IMO, why the 692 is already one of the most popular choices for sporting clays.

 

Trickster, when you pay good money to upgrade, the last thing you want is 'minor' production issues. You just want to go out and shoot. Not join a queue waiting for an upgrade.

 

The Prevail was nothing more than a test model for some features found in the 692. The discontinued/defunct Prevail was a non seller in the USA and was discontinued after well documented issues. The Prevail fell between the 686 and 682. It was doomed from the start. It was a tweener gun with no market.
Some people think they have a knock off 692 with a Prevail. Thats not true.

 

Trickster, when you pay good money to upgrade, the last thing you want is 'minor' production issues. You just want to go out and shoot. Not join a queue waiting for an upgrade.

I agree but realistically it doesn't always work like that. The SV10 is not the first gun to have a glitch and it won't be the last. Your beloved Mirokus still haven't sorted out the firing pin issues after 45 years!

Some people think they have a knock off 692 with a Prevail. Thats not true.

Quite the opposite in my case. I don't need an adjustable trigger and no one needs replaceable barrel shoulders. Otherwise the 692 is 100% Prevail 1 with the cones increased from 5" presumably because marketing liked the idea.

Like several other Prevail owners I can't yet think of a single reason to upgrade to a 692 other than for cosmetics and cred.

 

It is, an inferior product, the same as the Perazzi MXS designed to part fools from their money!

Considering the price difference between the 692 and Prevail III, I think the Prevail would be a smarter buy...After reading all the threads on this gun, it seems that marketing and availability determines price difference between the two, and not quality and/or function.

My wallet begs for smart purchases, and I think the Prevail will be within my sights..
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this post.
Will start a new one..

 

The Prevail and UGB were the two biggest shotgun flops by Beretta during the past 20 years in the US. Both are now orphan guns that can be purchased at very steep discounts. If thats what your looking for go for it.

 

Pijetro, our friend salopian is a knowledgeable guy with very fixed opinions on all things gun related but they are not always objective or well reasoned and no Beretta is an "inferior product". Like all makers some of their guns seem over priced but that's not the same thing at all. I accept that the Prevail III didn't have an obvious place in the range and that it had features that didn't interest many people, but none of that makes it a poor gun or a waste of money.

Ask anybody who has one if you want real opinions.

 

I wouldn't trade my Prevail III for any 692 or 682 for that matter and I've handled and shot all three.

 

Salopian, maybe you never heard of early MX 8 perazzi problems, or the k80 triggers, or the blaser f3 long and documented issues, or Brownings/miroku triggers...so on.
The 692 is no different from any other gun.

The prevail is the same gun..seriously. I am not sure why this poster thinks that it was a mistake when their system is used in the 692 and will be used in their future 690 series.

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Cedar,
I certainly did hear of all those issues you mentioned.But I do actually refute a lot of the criticism pointed at Browning / Miroku Triggers because in by considerable experience most of these trigger 'issues' are a result of neglect and lack of servicing. For some strange reason people buy K80's and have them serviced every year, but buy Brownings and never bother to have them looked at until they go wrong. It was interesting for me to see that at a Welsh National last week many people were sporting 'K' skeet vests and slips but using Miroku MK38. No doubt Beretta will get things right but with a little more forethought the current problems would have been engineered out.