Maybe send it to an authorized warranty repair place like Coles?

 

it's there from end of May. That's why i'm asking - does it make any sense to wait or just by another shotgun. I'm shooting hunting s/a - not cool at all.

 

Should you buy another shotgun?
Ohhh gee let me think...

YES!!

 

Why don't you just call Cole's and ask them? They are very nice people and they wont bite your head off. And you can get a straight answer rather than an opinion from here

 

When I approached Beretta customer service I was told that I can send a gun to their office in Maryland only (warranty repair). And that's what I did...

 

When I approached Beretta customer service I was told that I can send a gun to their office in Maryland only (warranty repair). And that's what I did...

What is wrong with the gun?
I've used Coles for repair work.
1 week turnaround.

 

opens on a second shot (top barrel) on some shells (like 32grams 1300fps)

 

Did you ever ask Coles if they could repair it??
I NEVER send a repair to Beretta for this reason!

 

Did you ever ask Coles if they could repair it??
I NEVER send a repair to Beretta for this reason!

nope... I thought warranty is specifically for such cases when product does not work manufacturer fixes it.

Would it be too stupid to buy another beretta shotgun? :mrgreen:

 

Coles is an authorized warranty center and much faster turnaround time and I would ALWAYS use them vs Beretta USA for any/every need.

 

If it's a Beretta shotgun issue, send it directly to Coles.

 

the gun is already there for 2.5 months... I can not send it to Cole's

 

the gun is already there for 2.5 months... I can not send it to Cole's

Lesson learned!

 

the gun is already there for 2.5 months... I can not send it to Cole's

Just curious....what does Beretta say when you ask when you will get your gun back??? For what it is worth, I'm a Browning guy but I've heard their repair times are very slow too and sadly there is no "Cole's" option. :-(

 

Use Midwest Gun Works for Browning. https://www.midwestgunworks.com/brownin ... thing.html

 

Use Midwest Gun Works for Browning. https://www.midwestgunworks.com/brownin ... thing.html

Thanks lt0026, no problems with my Browning guns so far but will keep this in mind should I need service.

 

I had a 694. Sent it to Coles who then sent it to Beretta Maryland. Turn around time was 2 months. I then reached out to Coles with an issue on the replacement 694 and they had me ship it directly to Beretta Maryland. Turn around time was a month but only because of some expedite thing of all the issues I already had. Mine was over December through March, they may be busier now.

 

Just sent one to Cole's. Turn around time was 33 days, including mailing both ways. They told me 6-8 weeks when I initially contacted them. Apparently they are pretty backed up with work.
Cheers Gofer

 

I know it's too late this time, but did you ever consider fixing it yourself? Changing a top lever spring isn't really that big a deal.

If you're going to the point of "buying something else," you should set yourself up to do these simple fixes. Gunsmith turnaround time can never be counted on.

 

Did you ever ask Coles if they could repair it??
I NEVER send a repair to Beretta for this reason!

nope... I thought warranty is specifically for such cases when product does not work manufacturer fixes it.

Would it be too stupid to buy another beretta shotgun? :mrgreen:

No
Normally they are bullet proof.
I have 5 that have been perfect, so far

 

Did you ever ask Coles if they could repair it??
I NEVER send a repair to Beretta for this reason!

nope... I thought warranty is specifically for such cases when product does not work manufacturer fixes it.

Would it be too stupid to buy another beretta shotgun? :mrgreen:

What model and how many shells have you fired through it?

 

Did you ever ask Coles if they could repair it??
I NEVER send a repair to Beretta for this reason!

nope... I thought warranty is specifically for such cases when product does not work manufacturer fixes it.

Would it be too stupid to buy another beretta shotgun? :mrgreen:

What model and how many shells have you fired through it?

Mainly hunting guns so low round count except the SP III in 28 ga.
Jubilee 12 ga
Jubilee 20 ga
EELL. 12 ga
EELL. 28 ga
SP III. 28 ga

 

Did you ever ask Coles if they could repair it??
I NEVER send a repair to Beretta for this reason!

nope... I thought warranty is specifically for such cases when product does not work manufacturer fixes it.

Would it be too stupid to buy another beretta shotgun? :mrgreen:

What model and how many shells have you fired through it?

686. 1.5 years old. may be 10-12 thousands through the gun.

Whoever said something about spring - you're probably right.
It's not the first time, the first time it started "acting" early this year. I cleaned the action and spring did not move "the right way", but I cleaned it and problem was gone.

Second time it started showing this behavior (opening on a second shot) around end of April. I new it's about a spring, action was tight. This was happening only on specific "loads": winchester 32 grams of steel flying 1325-1350 through the air (pretty "strong" load). With lighter loads (32grams 1200fps or 1oz 1300fps) no problems at all.

The gun was on warranty - I did not want to void it by disassembling myself. Some of the stuff in the action sits on glue (locktite). And 686 is a little more "complex" than other berettas

 

Did you ever ask Coles if they could repair it??
I NEVER send a repair to Beretta for this reason!

nope... I thought warranty is specifically for such cases when product does not work manufacturer fixes it.

Would it be too stupid to buy another beretta shotgun? :mrgreen:

What model and how many shells have you fired through it?

686. 1.5 years old. may be 10-12 thousands through the gun.

Whoever said something about spring - you're probably right.
It's not the first time, the first time it started "acting" early this year. I cleaned the action and spring did not move "the right way", but I cleaned it and problem was gone.

Second time it started showing this behavior (opening on a second shot) around end of April. I new it's about a spring, action was tight. This was happening only on specific "loads": winchester 32 grams of steel flying 1325-1350 through the air (pretty "strong" load). With lighter loads (32grams 1200fps or 1oz 1300fps) no problems at all.

The gun was on warranty - I did not want to void it by disassembling myself. Some of the stuff in the action sits on glue (locktite). And 686 is a little more "complex" than other berettas

Disassembling the gun shouldn't result in voiding of the warranty. That would be BS! You're entitled to work on your own gun.

Yes especially since you have a 686, the top lever spring on that is easier to change than in the DT/ASE platform crossbolt gun. It's not bad at all. You should pick up a couple springs and plungers (I think Cole's has them, as well as Brownells) and then the next time it happens you won't have to send it in.

Those top lever springs do wear out. I know that some Perazzi smiths recommend changing them every year or two years. If you close the gun and the lever is to the right of 6:00 but it still pops open (especially firing the top barrel and in wet weather), then it's the spring that has weakened. 10-12k is in the realm of reasonable for a top lever spring. It's not an indication of a problem with the gun or its quality. It's a consumable and it's only a couple dollar part. The spring has been compressed and decompressed at least 6,000 times with 10-12k shells, likely a lot more.

I try to only send mine in for major things. I like to change all the springs, firing pins, etc. myself. The less trips to the gunsmith, the better! Hopefully you get it back soon.

 

Disassembling the gun shouldn't result in voiding of the warranty. That would be BS! You're entitled to work on your own gun.

Yes especially since you have a 686, the top lever spring on that is easier to change than in the DT/ASE platform crossbolt gun. It's not bad at all. You should pick up a couple springs and plungers (I think Cole's has them, as well as Brownells) and then the next time it happens you won't have to send it in.

Those top lever springs do wear out. I know that some Perazzi smiths recommend changing them every year or two years. If you close the gun and the lever is to the right of 6:00 but it still pops open (especially firing the top barrel and in wet weather), then it's the spring that has weakened. 10-12k is in the realm of reasonable for a top lever spring. It's not an indication of a problem with the gun or its quality. It's a consumable and it's only a couple dollar part. The spring has been compressed and decompressed at least 6,000 times with 10-12k shells, likely a lot more.

I try to only send mine in for major things. I like to change all the springs, firing pins, etc. myself. The less trips to the gunsmith, the better! Hopefully you get it back soon.

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probably much more than 10k "cycles" in that spring (in the beginning I pulled trigger at home during exercises. Don't know why but I did).

Why dt10xx lever spring is harder to replace? entire trigger mechanism drops out. With 686 have to disassemble entire thing to get to lever.

And it seems that guys are just busy. Early this week I got my gun back!!!

In the note from gun master I saw couple of recommendations (according to my complains and wear spots on a gun): do not put glue on a forearm iron screws (to prevent forearm moving), do not use harsh chemicals for cleaning, move lever to the right fully before breaking a gun (marks on holes and locking lugs showed some wear).

Gun master also replaced lever spring AND locking lug (not sure if it's good or bad).

Checked the gun today... It's so good to go back to "my" gun. Everything is in the right place and feels right.

During this 3 months I shot from everything... Brownings, DTxx, 391, a400 (several different versions), and my rusty-trusty mossberg930