Gross! Polymer inserts in the receiver? The Glock of O/U's.....

 

We will see how this "techno polymer" tolerates powder solvents and gun cleaners.
Steve

 

I'm sure it will. I remember people said the same thing about Glocks 30 years ago. But even if it holds up, it's still non-heirloom gross!

 

As currently produced, an all steel receiver 26 or 28 inch 68x series field gun is already pretty comfortable for carrying. The titanium insert guns even moreso.

It's been decades since I've had the opportunity or inclination to fight through serious grouse and woodcock cover behind a dog all day. And when that was in the hills of S.E. Ohio, there was no such thing as too light of a gun! Even in N.E. Ohio flatland grouse jungles, lightweight was good.

So, I think there will always be segment of walking hunters that want an extremely lightweight gun to tote. Whether this iteration will appeal to them will be interesting to watch. If I were still in that category, I'd be open minded about the Ultraleggero. But as always, handling characteristics and proven reliability are are paramount.

A plastic shotgun receiver is out of the ordinary for sure. So are a lot of sound ideas when they are first developed and introduced.

 

As a fellow former SE Ohio grouse hunter, I agree with light being desirable, that being said, I found out in my brief love affair with the fiberglass barreled Winchester 59, light and shootable are not always synonymous. My Browning lightening 12 was heavier but far easier to hit with.

As currently produced, an all steel receiver 26 or 28 inch 68x series field gun is already pretty comfortable for carrying. The titanium insert guns even moreso.

It's been decades since I've had the opportunity or inclination to fight through serious grouse and woodcock cover behind a dog all day. And when that was in the hills of S.E. Ohio, there was no such thing as too light of a gun! Even in N.E. Ohio flatland grouse jungles, lightweight was good.

So, I think there will always be segment of walking hunters that want an extremely lightweight gun to tote. Whether this iteration will appeal to them will be interesting to watch. If I were still in that category, I'd be open minded about the Ultraleggero. But as always, handling characteristics and proven reliability are are paramount.

A plastic shotgun receiver is out of the ordinary for sure. So are a lot of sound ideas when they are first developed and introduced.

 

Maybe, if they make it in a 20ga used for quail or pheasant, not a target gun.

 

Not for me either. I am a traditionalist. My shotguns have to have wood and metal. I am okay with alloy receivers to lessen weight, but not plastic.

 

You could clean it in the dishwasher just like the Glocks.

 

Consistent with the benelli o/u. Shows a Corp wide effort to rip off customers with garbage.

 

So Bettera has come out with a new OU with no mid rib and a receiver with metal cutouts and plastic inserts in the quest of weight reduction. Not for me but what do you think?

No thank you.

 

Not for me either.

 

I need another shotgun like a hole in the head. But when I get one, it won't be another Beretta. A Cosmi in 20 bore would surely prove to be an indispensable addition to my collection that I could rationalize 'til the cows come home.

 

This one is a pass.

 

Some of you guys are talking down a gun you have not even seen.

 

There's always rude comments and bad behaviors towards the new whore on the block. Then one day.... someone gets the itch. The old whores look baggy and wrinkled....and they decide to try the new whore and decide that she has some tricks that the old whores knew nothing about.

 

Me thinks, here’s a potential opportunity for some future aftermarket enterprise - ‘bespoke and swappable’ inserts perhaps.? Ditch those polymer jobbies and slip in something tastefully engraved to suit the mood and moment in aluminium or steel say.. just a thought..

 

The previous Ultralight model was a much better looking gun but the new Ultraleggero is probably better in every other way.

Stronger action, better barrels, 3 inch chambers, can handle HP steel loads and double triggers are available. I like it!

 

Plastic is soulless.

 

I just read an article in the current issue of Shooting Sportsman magazine that reviews this gun. The article states the 12 gauge gun with 28 inch barrels weighs 6 pounds, 10 ounces. The previous Ultralight model with all metal receiver according to one of Beretta’s own websites lists that gun as under 6 pounds in 12 gauge. I even have the Silver Essential model in 12 gauge I bought 25 years ago that weighs 6 pounds, 15 ounces. So were is the advantage of reducing the metal and adding plastic to the receiver??!!

 

I own an Ultralight Deluxe with 28 inch barrels and it weighs 6 pounds 6 ounces. I watched a couple of reviews on YouTube where the one presenter states that the Ultraleggero weighs in at 6 pounds 7 ounces and the other states a weight of 6 pounds 4 ounces. The reason for the plastic is because the action is skeletonized. Personally, I wish they had gone for aluminium plates instead of plastic.

 

So, apply finite element analysis to the steel receiver, and carve out material which isn't bearing any of the burden, yielding a receiver possessing most of the advantage gained by an aluminum one while retaining the advantages of steel. Seems like a sound approach to me.

I suppose the polymer is cheaper, but it also won't develop white spots like worn anodized aluminum will.

Overall, I think it's a nice complement to the less traditional 828, which also makes use of selectively applied materials.

 

No thank you. I won't even buy one with an alloy receiver.

 

3# chamber, so not really sure what the market if for this thing.

Hence everyone thinks they want a light weight shotgun, right up to the point they pull the trigger on it and it tries to dislocate their shoulder, and also ends up with them shooting way behind the target since it not going to hold it swing as well. will have to learn to snap shoot it instead.

As stated, I could see it for youth in say 20 and 28, since it may be the perfect swing for them, but not in a 3" chamber for hunting in a 12 gauge model that is going to just punish someone half way through a box of shell.

Better yet, even with target loads, will bank anyone behind the trigger of one on say a skeet field, will not only be pulling there head off the stock as they pull the trigger, but will have a bad case of flinching as well.

Simply, reminds me of the days of the old 680 series target shotguns that where well liked, then B replace it with the lighter weight barrel target guns for the US market isntead. Yes, the lighter guns may have been great for international skeet, but since the market abroad is so regulated to begin with to really limit sales, it's in the states were most of the gun sales are instead. So instead of the lighter barrel guns selling as well, most switched to K guns, that still have enough forward weight that they swung well/helped to reduce recoil.

So considering that B has always had a light weight U/O gun in the line of up of sorts, don't really see that $3500 gun as anything new, but just another shotgun that will be bought for it concept, then spend the rest of it life in the gun safe/resold over and over after it first real outing.

 

Closest I ever got to plastic on a gun were the gutta percha grips on one of my old Colt revolvers.

 

I'd like to see and hold and swing one, and examine it closely before I comment. I'm a small bore fan, and I'd like to check out the 20 and 28 ga. models, and maybe even a .410. It MIGHT just be perfect for the uplands where you carry a lot, and shoot a little. And 3/4 oz. of shot in my 20 ga. reloads makes a GREAT light-kicking load for the uplands! (Sporting clays, too!)

Opinions are like assholes - everybody's got one - but I gather no one has even handled one, so lots of negativity!

I'll bet Joel Etchen might have some. in stock - a trip there just might prove interesting! I'll have to check it out, as I currently have (and love) Beretta O/Us in the small bores.

 

Older thread noted:

I find it interesting. Yeh, stout loads are gonna kick. But upland doesn't typically see volume shooting. 2 shots and a couple roosters? So what? Dislocated shoulder? Puhleeze.

The plastic is just a filler, though some titanium would be nice. The cheap "customization" though is an attractive idea. Your name, your dogs, whatever. Then if you do sell, the new owner can put what they like.

Alloy receivers are great for autos, but I'm not a fan in doubles. Where the weight is matters.

A 20g release is talked about, but I've only seen talk.

 

Ill bet Beretta already has other fancy plates in other materials in the works full well knowing people who buy these will want to ditch the plastic ones. Captive consumers.

 

Not interested at all. If one is seeking a lightweight shotgun, Beretta makes some really nice 20 gauges, as do others. There is no bird beyond the capability of the 20 gauge... well, ostriches maybe.

 

If you want lightweight, the older AS20EL was all steel and yet only weighs about 5.5#