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Carrier Release Button as "Cut-off" feature?

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#1 ·
Hello everyone,

Weatherby says:
"Carrier Lock Button: Provides versatility, allowing for quick load changes and an additional margin of safety when clearing the chamber without completely unloading the shotgun."
for the SA-08 semi-auto shotgun.

Benelli says:
"The "cut off" device consists of a special cartridge drop lever, which protrudes slightly beyond the lower part of the receiver within easy reach of the trigger finger."

But how does it work? How to use it? There is no explanation for it.

I know the magazine cut off system on Browning. There is a lever on the back of the recevier and when you pull the magazine cut-off lever rearward, it blocks the magazine and then semi-auto shotgun becomes a single fire shotgun.

How to use as a single fire shotgun on these Weatherby SA-08's or Benelli shotguns?
They say there is a "cut-off" feature on the "Carrier control button"? But how does it work?
 
#4 ·
bilalarabaci said:
Hello everyone,

Weatherby says:
"Carrier Lock Button: Provides versatility, allowing for quick load changes and an additional margin of safety when clearing the chamber without completely unloading the shotgun."
for the SA-08 semi-auto shotgun.

Benelli says:
"The "cut off" device consists of a special cartridge drop lever, which protrudes slightly beyond the lower part of the receiver within easy reach of the trigger finger."

I'm pretty sure that on both of those, you don't have to do anything other than retract the bolt to eject the live round in the chamber. The rounds in the magazine will stay where they are. OTOH, if you WANT to eject the live round from the chamber and simultaneously load a round from the magazine, just push in on this little button first, then retract the bolt. The round will eject from the magazine onto the carrier. Then when the bolt is cycled, the round will be fed into the chamber.


But how does it work? How to use it? There is no explanation for it.

I know the magazine cut off system on Browning. There is a lever on the back of the recevier and when you pull the magazine cut-off lever rearward, it blocks the magazine and then semi-auto shotgun becomes a single fire shotgun.

How to use as a single fire shotgun on these Weatherby SA-08's or Benelli shotguns?
They say there is a "cut-off" feature on the "Carrier control button"? But how does it work?

Again, I think (but am not positive) that neither of these guns can be shot as a "single shot" if you have rounds in the magazine. A round will be fed from the magazine into the chamber if you fire the round in the chamber. If I'm wrong, I'm sure that someone will correct me. :D
 
#5 ·
Ulysses said:
bilalarabaci said:
Hello everyone,

Weatherby says:
"Carrier Lock Button: Provides versatility, allowing for quick load changes and an additional margin of safety when clearing the chamber without completely unloading the shotgun."
for the SA-08 semi-auto shotgun.

Benelli says:
"The "cut off" device consists of a special cartridge drop lever, which protrudes slightly beyond the lower part of the receiver within easy reach of the trigger finger."

I'm pretty sure that on both of those, you don't have to do anything other than retract the bolt to eject the live round in the chamber. The rounds in the magazine will stay where they are. OTOH, if you WANT to eject the live round from the chamber and simultaneously load a round from the magazine, just push in on this little button first, then retract the bolt. The round will eject from the magazine onto the carrier. Then when the bolt is cycled, the round will be fed into the chamber.


But how does it work? How to use it? There is no explanation for it.

I know the magazine cut off system on Browning. There is a lever on the back of the recevier and when you pull the magazine cut-off lever rearward, it blocks the magazine and then semi-auto shotgun becomes a single fire shotgun.

How to use as a single fire shotgun on these Weatherby SA-08's or Benelli shotguns?
They say there is a "cut-off" feature on the "Carrier control button"? But how does it work?

Again, I think (but am not positive) that neither of these guns can be shot as a "single shot" if you have rounds in the magazine. A round will be fed from the magazine into the chamber if you fire the round in the chamber. If I'm wrong, I'm sure that someone will correct me. :D
I think you got it right.
So you can replace 1 shell. Of no value to me?
Last year, late season goose hunting, a mallard snuck in on me. No time to change shells so I shot him with a 3 1/2". BBB?
Next mallard I saw coming, changed out 2 shells for 3" #2. Missed both shots and shot him with a 3 1/2" BBB.
 
#6 ·
My Benellis operate as stated above. My wife's shotgun (Legacy) has an actual mag cut-off button. The only thing I find it useful for is if I want to eject a shell when crossing a fence. It locks the action open, unlike the Benelli, and once I cross, I drop the shell back in. Changing shells in the middle of hunting never appealed to me.
 
#7 ·
Thanks to everyone who attended.

@Ulysses,
"I'm pretty sure that on both of those, you don't have to do anything other than retract the bolt to eject the live round in the chamber. The rounds in the magazine will stay where they are..."

If I want to change the live round in the chamber, Do I have to pull back the bolt handle and hold it with my little finger and drop the desired shell into the ejection port and release the bolt, don't I?
And when I pull the trigger the shotgun will fire the round in the chamber but meanwhile the second shell that stays in the magazine tube will come up to the chamber automatically, right?
Changing the chambered round only for once (with a hand trick)?
So that's called the "Cut-off" feature?!
 
#8 ·
Benelli auto loaders (current) all have automatic magazine cutoff's. In other words pretty much like Ulysses described. With a round in the chamber and rounds in the magazine, pulling the bolt back will eject the chambered round. The Rounds in the magazine will automatically be blocked (Cutoff) and not released to the carrier. Letting go of the bolt once the round has been ejected will go forward and not chamber a round. You can now pull the bolt handle back and forth until the cows come home and as long as you don't touch anything, no rounds will be released from the magazine and the bolt won't lock open.

With rounds in the magazine and the gun cocked and an empty chamber, you can release rounds from the magazine in two ways. Pulling the trigger (dry fire) would be the first, but less safe. The second is to push up on the cartridge release lever on the right side of the trigger guard.

With no rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber you can lock the bolt back. First press the cartridge release lever and then pull the bolt back. This will eject the chambered round and lock the bolt back.

The automatic magazine cutoff is used on all of the Beretta Holdings auto loaders. The main differences is that most of the current Beretta models have a bolt lock lever on the left side of the receiver. It's only function is to lock the bolt back when engaged. They don't have a cartridge release lever on the side of the trigger guard. Instead, it's a little button at the front of the trigger guard/back of the carrier. The Franchi and Stoegers work the same as the Benelli's except for the AL48. This model not only automatically cuts off the magazine with each manual pull of the bolt but, it also locks back every time. It has no cartridge release lever of any kind making unloading a loaded magazine little slower but, safer.
 
#9 ·
bilalarabaci said:
If I want to change the live round in the chamber, Do I have to pull back the bolt and hold it with my little finger and drop the desired shell into the ejection port and release the bolt, don't I?
And when I pull the trigger the shotgun will fire the round in the chamber but meanwhile the second shell that stays in the magazine tube will come up to the chamber automatically, right?
That would be correct, for some models. On some other models, the bolt is held back manually (lever/button) and others are done automatically.

The "Cut Off" feature is the act of blocking the rounds in the magazine weather done manually (switch) or automatically (Beretta Holding models).