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CZ-USA Wingshooter Elite

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CZ-USA Wingshooter Elite

I just got home from picking up my new CZ-USA Wingshooter Elite 12ga 28" shotgun. As soon as I left the gun store I headed straight for the trap club to shoot a couple rounds. When I opened the box and the carrying case, all the guys came around to see the new toy, and we were all impressed with what we found. The gun looks beautiful, the wood is amazing (for this price point), and it handles like a dream. I put it together, checked the tubes, and walked straight up for round-1. I broke 21 of 25, which is what I would normally do with the Benelli SBEII I've owned for more than 15 years. I let it cool off for a round and then took it out for a second, and wouldn't you know, I broke 21 of 25 again :D

Once I got home I figured I should take some photos so I could share with the crew here. I spent a LOT of time reading posts from this group before I decided to buy this particular gun, so thank you to all those who've shared input over the years. Special thanks to @IheartShotguns for his detailed review of this gun [ https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 7&t=454967 ] and @cdb1097 for his multi-year reliability test showing that CZ makes a solid product [ https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto ... 7&t=189338 ]. I wanted to be able to put some karma points back into the system, so here goes...

When I opened the outer box at the club, most guys seemed happily surprised that the gun came with a hard plastic carrying case. This is my first over/under so I wasn't sure what to expect, but it feels like a pretty nice, lightweight case. You can tell they're made for several brands because there's a little circle in the center on both sides of the case, and on one side there was a CZ-USA emblem stuck on there. It looks nice enough, though, and it'll do the trick for what I need.

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When I got into the carrying case, I found a nicely presented set. The barrel/forearm and the stock each come shipped inside of a blue "velvet" bag, and are then wrapped with bubble-wrap for shipping. For routine use, though, that royal blue color of the sleeves seems to demand attention and they're pleasing on the eyes.

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After tearing through the layers, like a kid opening a favorite gift on Christmas morning, I found a beautiful piece of Turkish craftsmanship inside. The wood grain on the stock was way better than I expected and the engraving really makes it "pop" visually. As you'll hear from other folks, there's a plastic case for the choke tubes and choke wrench, which is a little weird because: A) it only holds four tubes, B) the wrench sits underneath the tubes, C) everything is loose in the case so the stuff moves around... but it's fine... it's the choke tubes.

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I have to admit, I was keeping all fingers and toes crossed for some nice wood, but I bought it online so you never know what you're going to end up with. Luckily, in this case, the wood-gods were smiling down on me because it looks sah-wheet! If you look really close you can see some areas where the wood has tiny "pits" - sorry, I don't know the technical term - but it's only in a few spots. Maybe I'll refinish this stock at some point but for now it is a winner in my book.

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The wood on the forearm is equally as nice and the checkering feels good on the hands. It took a few minutes - and a few helping hands from other shooters - to get the barrels on the receiver the first time, but after that it was a smooth operator. After shooting I did add some grease on the pins / hinge and also put a little oil on the choke tubes and cleaned the threads to make sure there weren't any metal shavings. When I was cleaning it after shooting, I also noticed that there was a sort of greasy film across the entire gun. I have to assume that it's done on purpose for protection during shipping, but who knows. Once I got a gun rag on it, the whole thing started to really shine.

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And then the final product, all shined up and ready to break some clays! I might take it out duck hunting on opening day, too, just for fun. I'll report back with an update after my next outing either way. If anybody is considering this gun, please feel free to send questions and I'll answer the best I can.

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PS - I looked up and down the internet for the best pricing and, in the process, stumbled across a great site called http://www.GunWatcher.com. I had just missed a sale on Buds Gun Shop for $800 and ended up getting it from another online retailer for $900 delivered. The best pricing I've seen lately has been in the $885 to $915 range, including shipping. Then you just need an FFL to perform the background check and transfer, and you're all set :wink:
 
#2 ·
That is a pretty damn nice stick for a "basic" gun! You definitely hit the wood lottery on that one! I'm glad you're happy with it.

If I may suggest, please be sure to put a little grease on the choke tube threads when installing them, and be sure to remove them every "so often" (depending on use) and re-grease. Nothing worse than a stuck choke tube!
 
#3 ·
I use permatex never seize on all my choke tubes, they never get stuck, but the stuff is messy, and it gets everywhere (or I am just sloppy :D ). Beautiful gun you have there, glad you like it, and glad it is working for you.

cdb
 
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I'll add my endorsement for the Permatex Anti Seize grease - either the lead or copper infused. I learned the hard way. :lol:

Nice looking shotgun - CZ shotguns just seems to be getting prettier and prettier.
 
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Choke Tubes

When I was at the trap range just after picking up my Wingshooter Elite, I thought I knew what the markings meant on the choke tubes, but I wasn't 100% sure. I knew that III would be modified, so I just shot that one the whole time. But then I figured I should figure what the others were. Knowing that these tubes are the same as Benelli, I looked on the Benelli website and found the information below. I'm sure this is covered elsewhere on the forum, but selfishly wanted to add this here for my own reference :)

The notches indicate the choke tube constriction. A lower notch count means more constriction (tighter). A higher notch count means less constriction:

1 = Full
2 = Improved modified
3 = Modified
4 = Improved cylinder
5 = Cylinder

These chokes are recommended for steel shot: modified, improved cylinder, cylinder. Most people find that modified choke works best for pass shooting and improved cylinder and cylinder chokes work well on decoying birds. There is no benefit shooting steel through a choke tighter than modified, and we do not recommend doing so.

These chokes are recommended for slugs: improved cylinder, cylinder. A cylinder choke is recommended for shooting rifled slugs in a smooth-bore barrel.


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#8 ·
Standard convention. Unless CZ-USA has gone brain dead, there is a chart in the instruction manual that comes with the gun. Mine has 3 - one for each type of shotgun, and they are all the same.
 
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jer901 said:
Unless CZ-USA has gone brain dead, there is a chart in the instruction manual that comes with the gun.
Haha! That's what I would have thought, but the instructions booklet (now one book with sections for each type of shotgun) is a little... how should I say... unclear. There is a page that says, "The choke constriction is designated by a series of notches at the muzzle end of the choke tube." Yep - that's true. Then there's a diagram showing a photo of the choke tubes and suggested usage for each tube (e.g. Imp Mod = Waterfowl). Ok - thanks for the suggestions. Never does it show or explain which notches correspond to each tube. What's funny is that all other tubes I've ever used have the name stamped on the side, and I just never memorized the tubes based on the notches. Anyways, mystery solved :oops:
 
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That sounds like the same instruction manual (or booklet) that came with my Canvasback in 2011 and my Ringneck in 2014. Is there no chart in yours? If there is, look at the column headed with the word "MARK". It's small but it's there - a circle with breaks depicting the notches depicting the muzzle end of the choke tube. It all corresponds to the asterisks (*) in the 2nd column.

BTW - the choke tube threads are the same as Beretta/Benelli tubes ONLY on the 12 gauge guns. Other gauges - 20 and 28 - are unique to Huglu made guns.
 
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That's hilarious - that one has 4 more pages than mine and you're right, they took the chart out of it. I guess the new generation of guns, of which yours is one, required a new manual. Not that there's anything in there that is unique to the newer guns.
 
#13 ·
My son just got a CZ Upland Lightweight. It has a chart on the choke tube case that shows how the marks correspond to the choke. An easy way I remember - More marks = More open choke.
 
#14 ·
BPGuy said:
My son just got a CZ Upland Lightweight. It has a chart on the choke tube case that shows how the marks correspond to the choke.
Good to know! I'll check my choke tube box and see if that cheat sheet is on there somewhere. How does your son like his UL?

BPGuy said:
An easy way I remember: More marks = More open choke.
That's a good way of remembering it. I was thinking about I mark versus IIIII marks and came up with the saying "wide open". The IIIII is a wider symbol and also the most open choke: wide open. Anyways, I'm sure others have already thought of this or are smarter than I am and can just remember without having to use a mnemonic :)
 
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Storage Cases

I put some foam on the inside of the choke tube box lid to keep everything in place during transit. It took about 30 seconds and works perfectly.

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I used my dremel to cut off the last inch or so from the multi-gauge choke tube wrench so it would fit in the gun case correctly, just because I think it looks nicer. You can also hide a gun rag in the void underneath the choke tube case.

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BPGuy said:
My son just got a CZ Upland Lightweight. It has a chart on the choke tube case that shows how the marks correspond to the choke.
Sorry for the delay, @BPGuy... I had a chance to look today and, unfortunately, my choke tube case doesn't have any information on it.
 
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Steel Shot

I took my Wingshooter Elite to an annual duck shoot yesterday and put 50 rounds of 3" Black Cloud shells through her with no issues whatsoever. I used the M and IC chokes and was surprised by some long shots I made, so apparently steel shoots well in the Wingshooter Elite, although I haven't patterned this gun yet. Then I took my gun out to the trap range this morning and put another 50 rounds through without any problems. Seems like these guns will eat anything you feed them :eek:

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I wore a head-cam at that duck shoot and got some good footage, so I'll post it as soon as I can get the video uploaded to YouTube.
 
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Lubrication

The action on my gun continued to be pretty stiff, so I wanted to apply a lubricant to lighten it up. I had some white lithium grease [like this stuff] lying around and decided to give that a try. It seems to be working well after a couple rounds of trap this weekend, and it appears to be staying in the right places on the trunnions. The action was quite a bit smoother and it was a lot easy to break open.

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On a side note, I learned this weekend that the term "trunnion" comes from historical cannon designs where the trunnions (pins) rested on recessed areas in the carriages. Anyways, I was always curious about this term... and now I know :roll:

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Recoil Pad

I have been working on a slip-on recoil pad for my Wingshooter Elite and was tracking my notes in a separate thread - viewtopic.php?f=137&t=460626&p=3790662#p3790662.

After a long day at the club, I am satisfied that I've found a winner - the Limbsaver Slip-on "Small Medium" 1/2-inch. This pad will be a life-saver during warm months and then I'll take it off in the winter during hunting season. Here is a stock image, although the one I have doesn't look exactly like this:
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Here is the pad on my stock:
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If you're looking for some extra cushion on your CZ, but want the flexibility to switch from summer-clays to winter-birds, this should help you out. You can pick one up on Amazon Prime for $25 delivered - https://www.amazon.com/LimbSaver-Slip-O ... B000W8FOME.
 
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3crosses said:
That plastic case is fine. But, it will eventually mar your stock.
I had this same concern, so I cut some pieces of foam and put them into the recessed areas of the case. Now the gun rests on those pieces and cannot slide around anymore. I should put the gun into the blue covers that CZ sends, but there's something about opening the case and seeing the wood. Or maybe I'm just lazy :wink:

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Sadly, I'll share that I live downtown in a large city that - let's just say - doesn't look kindly upon firearms of any shape or size. When I walk around with a full size gun case, I get some unwanted attention. If I'm carrying the shorter carrying case, 99% of folks have no idea what's inside.
3crosses said:
For travel you should pick up a nice canvas one. May I suggest [Boyt]?
I do love the Boyt cases, though. I probably have five or six for rifles and shotguns and they are great. My only gripe is that the zippers are so heavy-duty that I'm afraid they will scratch my barrels when I slip the gun into the case.
 
#23 ·
Well, I haven't added any updates in a while so I figured it was time to check in. I had a chance to get out yesterday and chase some pheasants at a local hunting club. We had about 12" of snow on the ground and it was 10F and windy, so I broke out the Wingshooter Elite to see how she'd handle the conditions. No surprise that it worked flawlessly! I went 4-for-4 on the first bunch of birds that went my way. I did end the day with a double-miss on a bird that flushed right in front of me, but I'll blame that on operator error :roll:

For the record, I was shooting MOD on bottom for my first shot and IM on the top for my followup, paired with some 2 3/4" Fiocchi #6 lead. The birds were sitting tight with all the snow, so I could have probably opened up my pattern some, but this worked too. Also, I took the aftermarket recoil pad off since I was layered-up for the cold weather. It feels like my plan to use the recoil pad during summer and no-pad during winter is playing out how I had hoped it would.

Anyways, I continue to be thrilled with this gun. Hope everybody is doing well and staying warm!
 
#24 ·
Another nice day afield chasing down the pheasants that remain on our club. My Wingshooter Elite performed well as usual. I also had a buddy join me who purchased a new Teal from Cabela's during that big sale a couple months ago. I had urged him to buy a Teal as he was looking for a new O/U to replace an old Stoeger that was falling apart. It took almost three months to deliver the Teal, as they apparently went on back-order from all the purchases. Anyways, he was thrilled with his new gun and it looked pretty darn nice. He was having some trouble with the safety sticking at first, but once he got used to it (or maybe it loosened up), he was shooting well and knocking down birds. Another satisfied customer!
 
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superbeau said:
Sadly, I'll share that I live downtown in a large city that - let's just say - doesn't look kindly upon firearms of any shape or size. When I walk around with a full size gun case, I get some unwanted attention. If I'm carrying the shorter carrying case, 99% of folks have no idea what's inside.
Your situation reminds me of my Dad. He lived in Chicago in the 1940s-50s. On day he was helping some friends move out of their house. When making the "final check" he looked under the front porch and pulled out an old musket. He took it to his friends saying "here, you almost forgot this". They said it wasn't theirs and he could have it if he wanted. Dad had taken the bus over and he and my Mom didn't have a car then anyway. So, he carried the musket back home through the streets of Chicago and on the CTA bus! No case or cover! Try that today! You wouldn't get far before before you'd have a bunch of blue lights after you. Dad wasn't a gun guy or a hunter but kept the musket and I have it today.

You did hit the wood lottery on your CZ! Looks great!