About how much with a plain Autumn Gold lens and one of the base 6 frames on your web page or similar?

 

I wear Trivex (R) for my street specs; love it! Thanks for the heads-up Maltz, gonna check it out!

 

About how much with a plain Autumn Gold lens and one of the base 6 frames on your web page or similar?

It doesn't matter if the lenses are plano or Rx, they will be made from a blank, shaped, edged and hand fitted to a frame. Plano or Rx is the same price.....$180.00 for lenses. Adding a Post4 62mm, 66mm or 68mm shooting frame with case, the cost is $295.00.

Maltz

 

Sounds tempting my friend!

 

It mentions shooters on the page, but doesn't indicate if the lenses will stop a pellet. Any insight?

 

The article below implies Trivex has similar shatter resistance when matched to polycarbonate. A pointing finger if not an answer.

Trivex

Refractive index (nd): 1.532
Abbe value (Vd): 43-45 (depending on licensing manufacturer)
Density: 1.1 g/cm³ (the lightest corrective lens material in common use)
UV cutoff: 380 nm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_lens#Trivex

Trivex is a relative newcomer that possesses the UV blocking properties and shatter resistance of polycarbonate while at the same time offering far superior optical quality (i.e., higher Abbe value) and a slightly lower density. Its lower refractive index of 1.532 vs. polycarbonate's 1.586, however, may result in slightly thicker lenses. Along with polycarbonate and the various high-index plastics, Trivex is a lab favorite for use in rimless frames, due to the ease with which it can be drilled as well as its resistance to cracking around the drill holes. One other advantage that Trivex has over polycarbonate is that it can be easily tinted.

 

About how much with a plain Autumn Gold lens and one of the base 6 frames on your web page or similar?

It doesn't matter if the lenses are plano or Rx, they will be made from a blank, shaped, edged and hand fitted to a frame. Plano or Rx is the same price.....$180.00 for lenses. Adding a Post4 62mm, 66mm or 68mm shooting frame with case, the cost is $295.00.

Maltz

I'm in the process of introducing a new shooter and she wears glasses.......if I'm understanding this correctly,I can send you a frame and you can install this type of lens with her prescription.

 

About how much with a plain Autumn Gold lens and one of the base 6 frames on your web page or similar?

It doesn't matter if the lenses are plano or Rx, they will be made from a blank, shaped, edged and hand fitted to a frame. Plano or Rx is the same price.....$180.00 for lenses. Adding a Post4 62mm, 66mm or 68mm shooting frame with case, the cost is $295.00.

Maltz

I'm in the process of introducing a new shooter and she wears glasses.......if I'm understanding this correctly,I can send you a frame and you can install this type of lens with her prescription.

Yes.....a shooting frame or street frame. Its best to include a sample set of lenses to shape and fit from. If a new frame is decided on latter, Post4 has a 62mm frame for small people and a 66mm for medium sized faces, and a 68mm for us bigger faces.

Maltz

 

Maltz
You get one of these set ups ready for Betty and I will get it for her for an Xmas present.
DDF

 

Maltz:

This might just be something I've been looking for since I got my first prescription glasses last year. I have a very mild prescription; I don't need glasses to drive, but I know I need them to clear up the fuzz surrounding clays. I noticed the light fuzzy look a year or so ago, talked with my eye doctor, and he said a light prescription would help. My vision is something like 20/30 in the right eye and 20/25 in the left. That's the base story...

Years ago I bought a Ranger set of 10 different tinted lenses that clip into a standard frame -- I'm sure you know what I'm talking about? Well, now if I want to use a tinted lens, I need to wear my normal glasses and put the Ranger frames over the top of them. So, in practice, I'm wearing two pair of glasses; not the best way to shoot -- way too many obstacles in my line-of-sight when I look out over the field...

My question: can you make me a set of Autumn lenses that will fit the Ranger frame so I can add them to my set of lenses?

I doubt that I would ever do the two pair of glasses thing again if the new lenses you're talking about will do as they are advertised to do. If in fact they adjust to conditions and are not too dark (I dislike dark lenses), they would solve a big problem. The Rangers were fine before I needed a prescription, but now they are a pain to wear...

Last question: Over the years I've found the lighter tints to be my favorites -- light bronze, light vermillion, and light purple and orange are the colors and shades I use 90% of the time. The dark lenses just sit there gathering dust. With experience, I have reduced my tints and colors to three: light bronze, light purple, and light vermillion (I use the light orange sometimes, but they seem to be very close to the light vermillion (red)...

Do these Autumn lenses come in a light version? If they get too dark I know I won't use them, especially a dark brown. I am not a sunglass wearer outside the range very often. I will use sunglasses when hunting over snow, but that's about it. I like true colors and tints take that away. For shooting trap, it's not a problem to get true colors, IMO...

That's about it. If your answers meet my criteria, I would like to place an order. I have my prescription in hand and could send that information along with the order. Plea advise here or in a PM. Thanks in advance....Jack

 

Jack.......

To level the field, let me explain lab tint levels. I am doing that in terms of polycarbonate, because the material doesn't tint as dark as Cr-39 or Trivex during the same dip time. Your plano lenses from Ranger or BA are poly. Lab terms because all marketing providers must order lenses by those specs.

Lab tint#1 is clear with a hint of the ordered color. Best noted by looking at the edge of the lens. Light density colors like yellow are hardly noticable just looking at the lens.

Lab tint#2 is obvious in color but still clear enough to see the users eyes behind the lens. Most standard tints at street are tint#2 to tint#3.

Lab tint#3 is now a dark color but still clear enough to see the shooters eye behind the lens.

Keep in mind the color density itself. Where a tint#3 of yellow is still lighter than Bronze or purple in tint#2.

Also when ordering colors from the lab, we use a lab color chart made available by the tint manufacturer. So the unique color names the shooting industry sells may not be on the chart by that name and must be cross referenced.

The Autumn Gold transitions lenses start at tint#2 gold and transend into a tint#3 orange-bronze. So to my way of interpretation they are light when compared to other transtional colors avaialble like gray and bronze (brown based), but dark when compared to a tint#1 yellow or gold.

Maltz

 

Maltz:

Thanks for the education concerning tints; your thorough explanation makes it easier for a decision...

In summary, you could make me up a set of Autumn Gold lens to fit my Ranger frame with a right eye off-set for $185.00...correct?

Or, I could buy a Base 6 frame and three right off-set lenses in my choice of color and degree of tint (either tint 1, 2, or 3) for $249.00....correct?

Or, I could buy any number of right off-set lenses in my choice of color and degree of tint for $30.00 per lens set...correct?

Last questions: Is the Autumn Gold clearer than the standard poly, in your opinion?

Are the images sharper in the Autumn Gold versus the standard poly?

Would you also think the Autumn Gold or your standard poly lens be clearer and sharper
than my current Ranger lenses?

Thanks in advance for your reply. Is it best to call or email my order. I would be paying by CC or personal check, whichever is best for you and your company...

Jack

 

those lenses are extremely intriguing.....

 

Maltz - you got a PM. :wink:

Greg

 

Maltzahn, i am interesred in these new lens. I have just had my annual eye exam last week. The Orthomoligist, told me that there was very little change in my prescription and not to bother buying new glasses., but i feel that I would benefit from the lens that you desriped. Here is my e-mail address permx8@g mail.com. Ifyou will give me your address , I can mail you a pair of my glasses( Decot) so you can fit them to my frames. I have three frames.and they my lens have my correct P.D. Thank you.

 

Another beginners question. I am going for my general eye exam. Don't know if a prescription will be recommended. I will ask them specifically about shooting clays. Currently wearing 160 mm cable Zeiss Competition 7031 glasses.

What exam information should I come away with to help get the best fit and function for my new shooting glasses?

 

Meridian...set a PM

Tangarm......You can visit with your eye doc about specific vision for target distance, but if the eye doc doesn't shoot he has no real idea. Nor does he/she understand how a lens is made with correction prisms at the lab level. They will offer an eye test with you deciding what prism is more clear, the optician will measure pupil distance and your out the door.

From that point you need to talk to, or understand what a shooting frame brings to the table. That info comes from a vendor doing shooting glasses.

Maltz

 

Maltz,

Do you know if it is possible to get a sample piece of this stuff so one could look at clay birds through it under different light to see how well it would work for an individual person before they would have to order a set of lenses?

 

Maltz,

Do you know if it is possible to get a sample piece of this stuff so one could look at clay birds through it under different light to see how well it would work for an individual person before they would have to order a set of lenses?

Yes, I have a sample blank in plano and carry it in my war-bag to let other shooters look at it. The manufacturer offers these samples to optical labs. So they are available, just not readily available.

Its best to look through the blank wearing clear street glasses or contacts so to view with your Rx. First in the shade and then in bright sunshine.

Maltz

 

Maltzahn, I am going to be out of town for the weekend. I will send you a pr of Decot frames, my new prescription ,and The P.D.AS soon as I get back.All my present lens,Four pair, have bifocals. I don't need them in the new lens. I will also talk to you on the phone. Thanks, Permx8@gmail.com

 

BUMP.

Looking for some updates and/or testimonials on these Autumn Gold Transitions glasses. Pros, cons, likes, dislikes, etc?????

 

My wife sure likes hers, it is all she wears for glasses when she shoots, all conditions. Scott

 

They are my "go to" lenses for bright conditions. I wear them most of the time. Love the clarity and blue block. For cloudy low light - twilight conditions, I go to Vision Dynamics permatint orange. Needing a better contrast offered by target color enhancement of the orange. New price is 225.00 just for just the AG lenses and I need to raise that price. Since the X-Cel company in southern MN has sold, the new owners have raised the price and increased production.

Maltz

 

Maltz,

If a shooter weren't interested in the "transitions" feature of the lenses and simply wanted a good shooting lens with a light tint, how would you compare the Trivex lens with the Polycarbonate lens for clarity, cost, durability, etc?

 

Maltz,

If a shooter weren't interested in the "transitions" feature of the lenses and simply wanted a good shooting lens with a light tint, how would you compare the Trivex lens with the Polycarbonate lens for clarity, cost, durability, etc?

The Trivex material will cost about $100.00 more than Cr-39 plastic or poly. Poly and trivex are both hard to tint and restricts what AR coatings that can be used because of surface tinting. Both will tend to wear off over time and cleaning. The Trivex is almost as clear as glass or Cr-39, and have a safety drop test near the same as poly. The stronger the Rx, the thicker the lenses and more noticeable clarity. Today's optical poly has improved clarity, but will not measure up to Cr-39. Glass is just not offered for shooting. The big problem is at the lab. Where the optical lab must have the manufacturing equipment to cut the available materials. Small in-house labs generally are very limited on equipment and coatings. Large commercial labs will be able to cut everything available in the eye industry. More expensive to go commercial than to make your own as a vendor. Or in my case, the 5th rated optical lab in the nation in the family, just few blocks away. Not only a great resource, latest technology and materials, but special service. Production is 1200 glasses a day.

I like my AG's, but my eyes also like a little less color density on darker days. The light transition is gold and it would be rated about tint level2 if we were tinting. Or in the case of yellow or orange, both tend to brighten conditions for my eyes. Add some target color enhancement and the choice is clear to my vision. My choice may not be the same as your vision choices. The clarity difference between Trivex and permatint poly has less merit than orange enhancement on a cloudy day.

Maltz