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Good Trap gun?

1.7K views 15 replies 12 participants last post by  maltzahn  
#1 ·
Hey guys, I have joined my high schools trap team this year being a freshman. I have been a hunter since day one but never shot much " actual trap." I shot a lot of backyard clays but that was about it. So leading up to what im getting at... the gun I have as of now is a Benelli Montefeltro 26". I shoot and average of 22. The coaches have informed me that although I am doing good the gun is limiting my performance and not allowing me to be improving to say a 24 average. They say the gun has to short of stock because for some reason my neck must be longer or something cause my cheek is way up on the stock and while shooting 100rd days I even get a little bruising. The other two reasons they say I need a different gun is that the barrel is to short and the gun overall is to light. :( . So, I am 15 as of now don't have a job and well lets face it I don't have all the money in the world. So two questions. 1. Should I get a dedicated Trap gun? The reason why I ask is if I do I will have nothing to hunt with unless I sell a few of my other rifles. So is it really that important to get a trap gun for instance 1100 competition synthetic, Browning Citori, Browning Bt-99? Or is it ok to go with for instance a black or camo even Winchester SX3 so I could use it for Waterfowl? 2. If I do have to get a trap gun what is a good gun and what is better Semi, double, or pump? All help is appreciated. or one more thing I have shot a friends BT-99 and I like the gun but it just didn't feel right and the forearm felt like holding a baseball bat from the sweet spot ( uncomfortable as all get out.) once again THANKS! {hs#
 
#2 ·
Others will be more qualified to suggest a gun but I make three other suggestions.

1) Buy a gun with a wood and not a synthetic stock.

2) To reduce the need to lean your neck forward to put your cheek on the comb, mount your gun higher, so the recoil pad is just far enough above your collarbone that it does not slide off during recoil and screw up a second shot.

3) Practice your gun mount so it will be the same each time you mount your gun. A consistent gun mount is more important than you probably realize. Ten minutes a day for a couple of weeks with an empty gun and wearing the clothing you wear when you shoot is the price you will need to pay to develop a consistent mount. It will be well worth the effort (and the boredom).
 
#3 ·
At 15 I really wouldn't worry too much about getting a dedicated trap gun. Good advice above as well. When I started shooting trap my gun was a a Remington 1100. It didn't fit well at all. Generally field guns don't fit me at all, I need a Monte Carlo stock at a minimum. I'm sure the people telling you that you need a trap gun mean well, but if you can't then you can't. Just keep practicing and I'm sure that 22 will improve and don't forget to have fun!
 
#4 ·
Welcome to the clay target sport. You are doing very well. I would agree the 26" barrel is not ideal for target shooting. Also, I have no idea as to the length of pull of your gun. I would refrain from considering a BT-99. The reason I say this is the BT-99 is made for 2 things; shooting 16 yard and handicap trap. If you would decide to try doubles or the sporting clays venue; this gun would be useless. You could add spacers to your existing stock to lengthen the pull and build up the comb using moleskin that is available at your local WalMart. It's worth a try if you can't afford to purchase a dedicated clay target gun. If you decide to purchase a gun; look around for a good used gun. Guns depreciate like anything else. Let the "other guy" take the depreciation hit. Anyway good luck to you. Ed
 
#5 ·
I'm with big Ed. Get the gun you have to better fit your present size and shape. Your still growing and nothing will be perfect for long. If your are a 88% shooter already, improving skills may be as much gun fit related compared to learned technique. There is much to know at both ends of that conversation.

A very low cost improvement would to be buy Rollin's gun fitting book and study it as if was a subject in school. After this course, you may know more about gun fitting than 95% of high school level safety first coaches and gain the information for a lifetime. Able to apply it to field or target guns for any size and shape you become.

Yup.....a longer barrel with a raised trap taper rib would be great, but not available for your Bgun. You have already learned how to cover targets and break them with a low POI, developed the move and follow skill. Adding 4 inches to your barrel length changes little from the 16 yard line. Changing guns would be major event and still leaves gun fit and POI setting an issue. You will still change in size and shape over the years and want several pickup loads of different guns without any good reason. In other words, your just like the rest of us here posting back at'cha. Then again....some of us know gun fit.

Maltz
 
#6 ·
BT-99's are limited to singles and handicap but they are a heck of a gun for those events. New they run $1200 vs $2600 for a Browning XT trap. They are rock solid and will not give you any problems. There are a bunch of them available used in the sub $1K used market even with things like adjustable combs and butt pads.
 
#7 ·
If your stock is too short, the first thing to try is a slip-on recoil pad. They are only a few dollars. Your nose should be 1-2" from your thumb, when mounting the gun. Then if your cheek is too high, add some moleskin to your comb, so that your eye looks down the rib, with a firm cheek mount. This will go a long ways to getting your gun to fit, for under $20. Mark
 
#8 ·
MN,

I'm not an expert but another option might be to see about getting a different bbl for your Benelli and looking into having Graco do their adjustable comb and butt plate mods. It might look "different" when you hunt with it, but until you stop growing it'll keep you from having the same issues every year or two.

http://www.graco-corp.com/

As an FYI, one of the boys at the clays range shoots an a400 with all the Graco stuff and he's a Master class shooter and just got back from the Worlds in England....he finished T-46 out of 841 and 2nd in Juniors. Not too shabby.
 
#10 ·
I'm on a tight budget too. My son (13) and I both shoot trap with our Rem 870s. He has an express with a wood stock and I have a black synthetic Super Mag. I had to put an aftermarket recoil pad on his as well as a neoprene sleeve with soft inserts to get him a better mount and reduce the impact to his cheeks.

That set me back ~$55, but he said it shoots so much softer. He went from averaging 13, to 17. I think the recoil was affecting him!

Bottom line is that we need the guns to be dual purpose right now and this is an effective way to do it.
 
#11 ·
Rollin Oswald said:
Others will be more qualified to suggest a gun but I make three other suggestions.
Don't let Rollin fool you with this statement. There are few in this world more qualified than him to give advice on the right gun for competition shooting.

Length of Pull (LOP) is a subjective measurement. It depends on body shape and stance. A shooter that stands more square to the target will need a shorter LOP than a shooter who stands more angled.

If your gun is bruising you, it doesn't fit right. Measure the distance from the trigger to the center of the pad and tell us what it is.

The length of the barrel is not a critical dimension.
 
#15 ·
One big point made was that you are going to continue to grow, so you need a gun you can grow into. Going to make the same suggestion I just recently made. Find yourself a used Remington 1100 and buy yourself a Jack West stock. You can adjust your POI to help not need to keep covering the target. You can also adjust the LOP, which I imagine will be very helpful over the next few years for you. Both can be purchased for a fairly reasonable price and you will have yourself a good all around gun.