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#1 ·
Just for fun, we picked up a $400 Yildiz 20ga O/U at Academy last week for my brother visiting from out of town. Beautiful stock, nice engraving, solid feel to it.

We put through 475 rounds in 3 days of heavy clay shooting, singles and doubles. No problems whatsoever. Flawless function. One hell of a gun for the price.
 
#2 ·
Yes, that gun is getting a lot of attention at that price point :!: The CNC world is putting out a lot of good guns at a price that more folks can afford. It's a nice looker too! Thanks for the report. A lot of folks want to label them as "junk" so it will take reports like yours to verify that they are pretty good shooters.
 
#5 ·
Hey Batu!

Glad to see you visiting here in Yildiz Forum! As I mentioned in Huglu Forum, several of the Huglu Forum guys have recently purchased Yildiz shotguns and are very interested by them.

Sadly, Yildiz shotguns are not easy to come by in the US. Academy Sports is the sole distributor of Yildiz guns in the US and they only have stores in 11 states. So most Americans can not buy a Yildiz shotgun and have never heard of them.

Also Academy sports only imports a very limited selection of Yildiz guns. Mostly the less expensive ones. Academy does not import any of the Yildiz SGr guns, nor do they import any double trigger guns. :( :( :( It has always been my opinion that the Turkish shotguns with double trigger were more reliable than the single trigger guns.

I'm looking forward to hearing what you learn about the Yildiz guns from your investigations.

best....2few
 
#6 ·
2fewdaysafield said:
Hey Batu!

Glad to see you visiting here in Yildiz Forum! As I mentioned in Huglu Forum, several of the Huglu Forum guys have recently purchased Yildiz shotguns and are very interested by them.

Sadly, Yildiz shotguns are not easy to come by in the US. Academy Sports is the sole distributor of Yildiz guns in the US and they only have stores in 11 states. So most Americans can not buy a Yildiz shotgun and have never heard of them.

Also Academy sports only imports a very limited selection of Yildiz guns. Mostly the less expensive ones. Academy does not import any of the Yildiz SGr guns, nor do they import any double trigger guns. :( :( :( It has always been my opinion that the Turkish shotguns with double trigger were more reliable than the single trigger guns.

I'm looking forward to hearing what you learn about the Yildiz guns from your investigations.

best....2few
Hi 2Few,
Thank you for your warm welcomes... I hope in the future we can met and hunt together. Better thing you can come Turkiye to choose your gun and than we can arrange a quail hunting here...
You are right double triger with extractor guns are working without any problem. Unfortunately I am a new generation hunter and even I like double trigers I can not use them... I check yıldız shotguns from their web page and interesting point is they have single triger, ejector, side by sides under 3 kg in 12 ga....I have been dreaming for such a gun. So as soon as possible I will order one in 61cm barrel cylindir chokes to use it in quail hunting...
Take care
Batu
 
#7 ·
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You can't use double triggers and I can't use single triggers! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: A few weeks ago, I was at the range shooting Sporting Clays and near the end of the course (100 rounds) I found myself short by 4 rounds. Since I was shooting a 16 gauge, nobody had any shells they could spare me. But they all offered to let me use their guns for the final shots. I borrowed a 12 gauge O/U with single trigger. The first pair was thrown....I broke the first clay and swung on the second.....pull the trigger and NOTHING! NO BANG! The clay crashed unharmed into the ground. And I stood there frantically pulling on the back of the trigger guard! :lol: :lol: :lol: Same thing happened on the last pair! :lol: :lol: :lol: The entire squad was laughing themselves silly!

The Yildiz guns are considerably lighter than the Huglus! and with 24 inch (61 cm) barrels, I'll bet the 12 gauge weighs something like 2.7 kg or maybe just a bit over. That would be one FAST gun, though one seldom sees barrels that short in the field here in the US. 26" is usually the shortest.

Hope you'll keep us informed of your shotgun purchase and post some pics if you get a chance!

Best.....2few
 
#9 ·
Hey Batu!

I shoot the 16 gauge for the same reason I shoot SxS with 2 triggers. Because I am one seriously strange guy! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually, I prefer DT SxS in 16 gauge because when I was a kid, that was what all the old timers who had been shooting forever shot with and I wanted to be like them. They knew their guns, they knew the woods and they knew their game and I wanted to know as much as they did.

I've bought a few O/Us over the years (2 in 16 gauge) but I always return to my SxS with double triggers.

I love the DeHaan SGrs! If I had the money, I'd probably have a dozen of them! Though right now I am spending most of my money traveling to go hunting with friends I have made here on Shotgunworld!

The only complaint I have about the Huglu 16 gauge guns is that they are just too heavy for a good bird gun! Huglu makes their 16 gauge with 12 gauge barrel blanks and so their 16 gauge guns usually weigh more than their 12 gauge guns, which already tend to be a little on the heavy side.

I really wish Yildiz would make a 16 gauge SxS with double trigger and choke tubes! With 26' barrels, it would probably weight about 6.15 pounds (2.8 kg) and would be a FANTASTIC bird gun for dove, quail, grouse and pheasant!

While the 16 gauge does not enjoy great popularity here in the US, it does have a small and devoted group of fans. We like to say that a good 16 gauge hits like a 12 gauge and carrys like a 20 gauge. Best of both worlds!

Best....2few
 
#10 ·
Hi 2few,
You are really an interesting guy. I also use old stuff like a Canon A1 instead of a digital camera etc... but 16 gauge.... I would understand if you had an old british sxs from your grandfather :) I have a 16ga story.. One of my friend brought a very old single barrel 16 so just for fun I have load a 20ga shell in it and gun could fire it... absolutely no recoil...I don't know the performance of shot but probably enough to kill a quail...
spending money to hunting trips rather than guns is a good idea...
My opinion regarding shoke tubes; thats are not suitable for sxs guns. It is ok for Over unders...
I will check a 20ga single triger sxs with ejectors as soon as I have oportunuty but I have conserns that it will work properly...
Batu
 
#11 ·
BATU you have some good thoughts {hs# I don't like SxS with choke tubes either. Just doesn't seem right. Funny I should feel that way since I don't mind single trigger!
I also prefer english (straight) stocks on my SxS's---Doesn't seem quite right on an O/U.

I am generally not an OU fan because I don't like the big break when they open, especially on the OU's like browning and winchester that have a tall action. Can't stand the tall action guns----they're like a wooden club :!: :!:
The Yildiz guns are more sleek like SKB's which I have always owned and liked :D

SEE 2few, we may all be a little strange :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
#12 ·
Batu75 said:
Hi 2few,
You are really an interesting guy. I also use old stuff like a Canon A1 instead of a digital camera etc... but 16 gauge.... I would understand if you had an old british sxs from your grandfather :) I have a 16ga story.. One of my friend brought a very old single barrel 16 so just for fun I have load a 20ga shell in it and gun could fire it... absolutely no recoil...I don't know the performance of shot but probably enough to kill a quail...
spending money to hunting trips rather than guns is a good idea...
My opinion regarding shoke tubes; thats are not suitable for sxs guns. It is ok for Over unders...
I will check a 20ga single triger sxs with ejectors as soon as I have oportunuty but I have conserns that it will work properly...
Batu
Hey Batu!

You are very polite to say I am "interesting"! Here in the US, polite people say I'm a little weird.....But most people just say I'm NUTS! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're quite right that 16 gauge SxS guns should not have choke tubes! And mine don't. But if the world was really perfect, I would have about 15 or 20 16 gauge SxS guns....about 1/3 would have choke tubes, the other 2/3 wouldn't! :D That way I would have a 16 gauge for every occassion! :lol: :lol: :lol:

And since you mentioned ejectors....yes I REALLY am nuts! I prefer extractors to ejectors! :lol: :lol: :lol:

AHhhhh Batu! I can see you shaking your head and saying..."These Americans really are crazy!" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

On a more serious note....

If you ever find yourself in the city where Yildiz makes their headquarters, please tell them a few things from me....

#1.....They need to get a distributor in the US that sells throughout the country, not in just 11 of our states. Because of Yildiz' choice of Academy Sports as their sole US distributor, the vast majority of American are not able to buy a Yildiz Shotgun. :( :( :(

#2.....They need to make a lightweight 16 gauge! :D

#3.....They need to make true left hand shotguns. Left hand shotguns are hard to come by in the US and Yildiz would probably sell them as fast as they made them.

Lastly......Tell them I would be very interested in an exclusive license to sell their shotguns in every state where Academy Sports does not have a store.

As always Batu.....thank you for joining the discussions here.

Best....2few
 
#14 ·
Maggs.....

It seems unlikely that Academy is coming to Michigan or Ct any time soon. :x :x :x

But from research I did a few years ago, I'm convinced Yildiz would be receptive to a distributor for the rest of the US.

So.....If I can pull it off, how many do I put you down for? :D :D :D
 
#17 ·
SGRSS20 said:
OK 2FEW, Are you talking about us in a partnership on that distributership :?: :?:
I have to keep an eye on you :!: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Jokes aside----it would probably be very successful hmmmmm :idea: :?:
Yeah....Thats pretty much what I am talking about. I'll deal with the Turks and do sales, handle "the office"........You make sure the guns work. I wouldn't want Briley handling service. As far as service, I would want to emulate Mark's model. We'd work out a partnership that was OK for both of us.

I don't have enough money to retire. But I may have enough money to make a "go" out of a shotgun business. What the hey! I've been "rolling the dice" all my life.

You interested?
 
#18 ·
Hi Guys,
It seems a new distributor company is estabilishing here.... Just be sure to not invest too much money for 16ga... A few is ok...
One of my friend is left handed and as "interesting" as 2few... So he wanted on a single triger sxs (without selector) fires left barrel first instead of right one.. And also left barrel has wider choke instead of right.... Acording to him on a left handed side by side everything has to be mirrored... like on double triger first triger has to be shot left barrel instead of right.... Is it that much important to shot left or right barrel shot first? I mean since wide choke shots first is it important to shot left first??
 
#19 ·
Hey Batu....

I'm not a left hander. I was mentioning left handed guns because a good friend from SGW who goes by the name leftieD is. He and I speak frequently about the scarcity of left handed guns in the US. They are very hard to find and in fact, most left handed shooters wind up shooting right handed guns. He is of the opinion that if a company were to regularly make reasonably priced left handed shotguns with the proper stock cast for left handers and a top lever that opened to the left that they would sell very well. I'm not at all sure that the order in which the barrels fire and are choked would matter. Especially in guns equipped with choke tubes....which most guns imported to the US are.

I am inclined to agree with him that if a company were to design a marketing campaign specifically to reach out to left handed shooters that there is probably a substantial niche market for such guns.

Best....2few
 
#20 ·
Not to get to far off topic. How do the sxs hold up? I bought a Destino 20g by Franchi. The wood was killer! to get wood like that on a Beretta would have been insane cost wise.

The gun became a dissapointment. Service on it was quick both times for the same problem. Sold it a guy after explaining the problems (still not resolved). At a great price. Maybe he'll have better luck.
 
#21 ·
Hey BHN....

Can't give you a real reliability report on the Yildiz SxS guns. SGRSS20, myself and cdb1097 are pretty new to the world of Y-Guns. We know the Huglu guns better.

SGRSS20 was the first of the "regulars" from Huglu Forum to buy a Y-Gun, a 20 gauge O/U. Over on Huglu Forum he reported it to be a solidly built gun that needed a little "polishing". You can learn more about his impressions and how he "polished" on this thread..... viewtopic.php?f=137&t=218634 This gun eventually this gun found its way to cdb1097 who has been maintaining a long running thread on the reliability of his CZ-USA (Huglu) Canvasback. You can see that thread here viewtopic.php?f=137&t=189338 . He has since started a similar thread about the reliability of his Y-Gun, which you can follow on this thread...... viewtopic.php?f=104&t=222778

SGRSS20 then found an O/U 12 gauge with rather nice straight grained wood, mounted a better recoil pad, adjusted the pitch and did some polishing and that gun will be heading my way shortly. I'll be joining cdb1097 in an effort to chronicle my shooting with this gun. Though I will probably not achieve anywhere near his round count as I bought this gun primarily for a lightweight hunting gun, not for a day in day out clays gun.

Now SGRSS20 has picked up a Yildiz .410 which I am sure he'll be telling us about soon.

So us three "Huglu Guys" really don't have enough experience to make long term judgements about the reliability of the Y-Guns.

Another frequent visitor to Huglu Forum, BPGuy, has owned 2 Y-Guns and thinks well of them. Though one of them did develop a problem with light hammer strikes in one barrel after a couple of years, which was reasonably quickly repaired by Briley under warranty.

This being the "I Love My Yildiz" Forum, you're not going to find any "bashers" here. Admin does permit reports of problems on the "I Love My....." Forums, but does not generally permit people to come on the "I Love My....." Forums and make blanket derogatory statements like "They are all junk". Simply not appropriate.

So I guess you could say that several of us were intrigued enough by the idea of a pretty inexpensive double with nice wood and low weight to go ahead and take the plunge. At their price point, you simply aren't risking much as you can always sell the gun or trade it in at your LGS and get a fair amount of your minimal investment back out of it.

Personally, I'd have opted for one of the SxS models, but sadly Academy Sports does not carry them in any of the "better" grades, just the base model and I am one of those guys who is always leery of buying "base models" when it comes to inexpensive shotguns.

Hope this has been of some help.

Best.....2few
 
#22 ·
Thanks. I've just never heard of them. And although I'll always have a passion for Berettas. And I'm not looking to replace them. Just once in a while I consider making a reasonalbe purchase for a "knockabout" gun. Sometimes its prudent in training or with someone else's dog to drop it in a "hurry"and not care about significant damage. Break open guns afford you that luxury. i. e. making them safe to put down quickly, But they still have to be durable.
 
#23 ·
2fewdaysafield said:
Batu75 said:
Hi 2few,
You are really an interesting guy. I also use old stuff like a Canon A1 instead of a digital camera etc... but 16 gauge.... I would understand if you had an old british sxs from your grandfather :) I have a 16ga story.. One of my friend brought a very old single barrel 16 so just for fun I have load a 20ga shell in it and gun could fire it... absolutely no recoil...I don't know the performance of shot but probably enough to kill a quail...
spending money to hunting trips rather than guns is a good idea...
My opinion regarding shoke tubes; thats are not suitable for sxs guns. It is ok for Over unders...
I will check a 20ga single triger sxs with ejectors as soon as I have oportunuty but I have conserns that it will work properly...
Batu
Hey Batu!

You are very polite to say I am "interesting"! Here in the US, polite people say I'm a little weird.....But most people just say I'm NUTS! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're quite right that 16 gauge SxS guns should not have choke tubes! And mine don't. But if the world was really perfect, I would have about 15 or 20 16 gauge SxS guns....about 1/3 would have choke tubes, the other 2/3 wouldn't! :D That way I would have a 16 gauge for every occassion! :lol: :lol: :lol:

And since you mentioned ejectors....yes I REALLY am nuts! I prefer extractors to ejectors! :lol: :lol: :lol:

AHhhhh Batu! I can see you shaking your head and saying..."These Americans really are crazy!" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

On a more serious note....

If you ever find yourself in the city where Yildiz makes their headquarters, please tell them a few things from me....

#1.....They need to get a distributor in the US that sells throughout the country, not in just 11 of our states. Because of Yildiz' choice of Academy Sports as their sole US distributor, the vast majority of American are not able to buy a Yildiz Shotgun. :( :( :(

#2.....They need to make a lightweight 16 gauge! :D

#3.....They need to make true left hand shotguns. Left hand shotguns are hard to come by in the US and Yildiz would probably sell them as fast as they made them.

Lastly......Tell them I would be very interested in an exclusive license to sell their shotguns in every state where Academy Sports does not have a store.

As always Batu.....thank you for joining the discussions here.

Best....2few
Mr. 2fewdaysafield :D

where I live is very close to Yıldız Company and I visited Yıldız sometimes in the past,

regarding to your points,

1- I have no idea and information about their distribution system in USA and other countries but what I exactly know is they sell all of their production abroad including USA, Germany, Italy, UK, Canada, New Zealand, France, Spain and many other countries,

One of the worker at Yıldız told me that one of their model had been chosen the best shotgun of 2010 in UK, and they would receive logo of the best shotgun in UK in a few weeks, I will ask them about logo again next time I visit them.

2- 16 Ga is not as popular as it was so they don't produce

3- I am not sure whether they have a serial production of left handed stock or not but they might produce it if you give a special order, I am not sure,

Maybe you need to make a contact with them about being their distributor. :D

Let's talk about my thoughts about Yıldız and other manufacturer in Turkey

Yıldız is very old company, it is one of the oldest shotgun producer in Turkey

I saw a few other companies' plants but as far as I see Yıldız has the best technology among them, They use the latest CNC machines,

You guys live in USA and I am envy with that :cry:
You have a lot of choice for shotguns for other brands, I had some experience with USA and European shotguns and of course so many Turkish shotguns,

Before I had a Yıldız, I was always fun of European and USA shotguns because other Turkish brands was terrible,

One day one of my friend offered me to visit Yıldız and buy a shotgun from them,
at first I was not very keen on visiting Yıldız, but we did.

My friend bought a shotgun but I didn't, we went on hunting together some times and I wanted to use his Yıldız,
That was perfect, I wasn't able to see any difference between Yıldız and other USA and European made shotguns and I felt very regretful not to buy a Yıldız.

Finally, I bought a Yıldız a few years ago and I never even handled any other brand and I bought a few different Yıldız model too,

Yıldız is so perfect that some companies have tried to copy of their products but their technology so poor that they can just copy of a few model of Yıldız,

One of my friend bought this replica and the shotgun exploded in his hand and had a very bad wound, his hand is fine now,

I will post the photo of that replica if my friend still has it,

with all due respect I can say that Yıldız is the best shotgun when we compare it with other European and USA made shotguns, I don't even mention other Turkish brand because they are almost 30 years behind Yıldız.

some of you might say that we have other Turkish brands and it works good, if you say this ask yourself how many shotgun do those companies produce, where do they sell, in which countries are their products being sold
 
#24 ·
Thank you ishak,

For your most detailed reply! I would like to discuss the idea of becoming a distributor in the USA for Yildiz in more detail, but must run out to do some work for a few hours.

I will respond in more detail this evening.

Best.....2few
 
#25 ·
2fewdaysafield said:
Thank you ishak,

For your most detailed reply! I would like to discuss the idea of becoming a distributor in the USA for Yildiz in more detail, but must run out to do some work for a few hours.

I will respond in more detail this evening.

Best.....2few
Oh crap, 2few if you become a distributor, I can see my basement full of Yildiz shotguns that you talk me into buying!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: When my gun safe is full will you be able to get me a bigger one at a greatly discounted price???????????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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