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Just got into shooting clays last weekend. My wife and I have been shooting pistols at our range and decided to try shooting clays. I have a 1960s Remington 1100 12ga and we had a lot of fun. She wound up pretty sore in her shoulder and I didn’t really want to risk damaging the old 1100.

I was looking for a 20ga semi auto and was blown away by how many SA guns are just rebranded Turkish built guns.I’m a firearms snob when it comes to pistols, and do my own pistolsmithing on 1911s. After looking at so many sub 1100.00, it looked like there was basically three different designs, but prices range from 237 to 1100.00. I didn’t like theHatfield design and had settled on a Tristan Viper or CZ720 until I saw a McCoy SAS. It was a nice looking shotgun and operates pretty much like a Remington 1100. I bought one for 237 and have been lookingfor reviews to no avail. After doing a good bit of research, I found out Hatfield was shut down after Ted Hatfield died and the Hatfield gun company quit paying royalties to the Hatfield Trust. It appears they changed the name to McCoy Arms and chose a different SAS design. It’s the same operating address and the website is pretty much identical in design. The Hatfield FFL is also expired, but the McCoy was just filed this year. I found it interesting the owner would change the name to McCoy after a dispute. Kind of funny.
 
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I probably exaggerated calling it “junk”. It’s definitely a cheap shotgun. I say that, but the McCoy SAS Baker model is a very “fun” shotgun. I’ve got about 130 rds through it now and the trigger group pin walks out after about every 5 shots. I pulled the unit to see if I could fix it. It has a slotted steel pin like an AR trigger pin. On the left side, it has a very small retainer clip that fits in the sleeve. I think the slot in the sleeve is too shallow and doesn’t allow the clip to go down far enough to grab the retaining slot. I contacted the company though and they are sending an entire trigger group assembly for free, so that’s very good of them. It’ll give me one that I can increase the depth of the slot just a bit to see if it gets better. Provided the new one does the same thing. I actually do like the gun as it’s very light and nimble. I’m just shooting skeet and the fiber front dot is easy to pick up when I look for it. I usually just snap the shot but on some that are going away I will actually get a bead on them.
The other two issues are easily correctable. The choke tube would shoot lose after several shots and I couldn’t seem to get it to stay tight. I placed a thin Oring on it and fixed that issue.
The other thing is the cycling. I shot 1300fps 7 1/2 shot without issue. But with the cheap Federal bulk pack from Walmart, it will short cycle fairly frequently. Not a big deal and common with 20ga semi autos shooting very light loads.
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This is the trigger group so you can see it isn’t the same quality as a Remington 1100 for sure.
 
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I probably exaggerated calling it “junk”. It’s definitely a cheap shotgun. I say that, but the McCoy SAS Baker model is a very “fun” shotgun. I’ve got about 130 rds through it now and the trigger group pin walks out after about every 5 shots. I pulled the unit to see if I could fix it. It has a slotted steel pin like an AR trigger pin. On the left side, it has a very small retainer clip that fits in the sleeve. I think the slot in the sleeve is too shallow and doesn’t allow the clip to go down far enough to grab the retaining slot. I contacted the company though and they are sending an entire trigger group assembly for free, so that’s very good of them. It’ll give me one that I can increase the depth of the slot just a bit to see if it gets better. Provided the new one does the same thing. I actually do like the gun as it’s very light and nimble. I’m just shooting skeet and the fiber front dot is easy to pick up when I look for it. I usually just snap the shot but on some that are going away I will actually get a bead on them.
The other two issues are easily correctable. The choke tube would shoot lose after several shots and I couldn’t seem to get it to stay tight. I placed a thin Oring on it and fixed that issue.
The other thing is the cycling. I shot 1300fps 7 1/2 shot without issue. But with the cheap Federal bulk pack from Walmart, it will short cycle fairly frequently. Not a big deal and common with 20ga semi autos shooting very light loads.
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This is the trigger group so you can see it isn’t the same quality as a Remington 1100 for sure.
and if you had a chance to compare the recoil to your 12 gauge how would you compare it?
 
#15 ·
McCoy Arms delivered. I received my new updated trigger group today. The pin is much tighter and the trigger is much better too. It may not be perfect out of the box, and it’ll never be a 1100/11-87, but it is fun to shoot and very lightweight. It also looks great. For 237.00, I’d probably buy it again for a fun gun. Just have to think of it as disposable instead of an heirloom.
 
#17 ·
I seen a McCoy SAS 12 gauge at Walmart today. It looks nice, but when I asked what brand and they told me I was like WTF, them to learn it's a SAS model as well. I think he said it was $239 bucks and has a nice finish to it. I read the redesigned the piston so it can just be flipped to charge what fits your shells you're shooting. I also seen a picture of one blown all to hell, it shoved the magazine tube into the receiver about a 1/4 inch and said McCoy wouldn't warranty it.