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Herter's Model S27 by NRS Fuji Japan

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I recently acquired a Herter's S27 12 ga over under shotgun. This is sort of oddball, orphan child produced for the Herter's company in the late 60's by NRS Fuji gun manufacturing of Japan. Since I found so little info when I was researching this gun, I thought I would post some pics and share some specifications.

The gun has 28" barrel marked Modified and Improved. Per my bore gauge the chokes are -.025 over -.010. It has a vent rib with 2 beads and chambered for 2 3/4" shells. It has a single selective inertia type trigger and selective ejectors. It's cast off for a right hand shooter and the LOP is 14 1/8" to a hard plastic butt plate marked Herter's. Fit and finish seem comparable to the Charles Daly Miroku built OU's of the same time period and the wood is pretty nicely checkered and finished.

My gun has serial #HA00056 and I don't think there were very many of these guns ever built. I found the S27 listed in my 1970 GUN DIGEST at $168.95. For comparison a Beretta BL-1 was $190.00 and a winchester 101 field was $325.00 This one was less than $400 at local shop and appeared to have been fired little to not at all.

One of the reasons I purchased this gun was it fit me about as well as any OU I've ever handled. I took it straight out to the local 5 stand and was very pleased that right off the bat I was on with it and recoil was very mild indicating a properly fitting stock.

I only shot one round of 5 stand with it. Everything seemed to be working perfectly with the gun, but when I fired 2 rounds the gun was very difficult to open. I'm not sure of the cause. Perhaps the firing pins were sticking or there was some issue with the auto ejectors, but I had to hold the lever open and bump the barrels hard with my other hand to pop the action open. Everything worked fine including the ejectors if I only fired one shell from either barrel. I have since removed the stock and thoroughly cleaned and lubricated all the parts. I hope that the problem was just that the gun had been sitting for 40+ years and just needed some lubrication in the right spots.

Anyway. Assuming the problem is an easy fix, I'm quite happy with gun and I think it would be one of those sleeper guns to keep an eye out for if you can get a deal on one.

Weagle

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#4 ·
Took the gun back to the range and it's still hanging up if I fire both barrels in succession in either order. It's much better than it was, but the gun still requires a slight bump to unlock the action. Tried several brands of ammo too just to make sure that wasn't the issue.

I noticed while I had it apart that the firing pin return springs were very weak. Almost no spring pressure to retract the firing pins after firing, so I'm pretty sure that is the issue. They were just common coil springs so finding a suitable replacement should be pretty easy.

Weagle
 
#5 ·
The OLD Herters used to have some pretty good guns. A friend bought a 7MM Remington Mag. Mauser in their Supreme Deluxe Certified Alaskan Guide grade or some such (loved their marketing), and it looked downright terrific and shot wonderfully. Another friend bought a 20 gauge SxS for quail and it was a pretty little gun and handled great. I bought a cheap German made 22 revolver from them, and it was the second most accurate handgun I have ever owned (most accurate was another cheap German 22 revolver). Amazing - they even shot better than Smith, Colt, and High Standard semis.
 
#8 ·
Hello All:

I also found one of these guns earlier this year at a local shop. The action is built like a tank, it points and shoots great, and was super-affordable. The checkering is hand-cut on a nice walnut stock, and the overall fit and finish is quite nice. My gunsmith says the gun is built as well as any "high-grade" gun he has worked on, and that it should be no problem to keep it shooting for many years.

In regard to the "sticking" problem, I have experienced the exact same thing on my gun. I shoot skeet with it, and after doubles, I have to break it open across my knee. Since the gun appearrs to have been fired very little during its life, I am just going to see if it "works in" a bit.

There could not have been many of these guns produced. Mine is in the low 500's serial number range, and they don't seem to show up very often.

Good luck with it.

Jeff
 
#9 ·
Just thought I'd throw this out there, though most is speculation;

I've got a low two-digit serial S27, with 28" barrels, and I/M chokes. As I understand it, the "N" and R" in "NRS" stands for "Nihon Ryojyu" which I have been told is loosely translates as "Japanese Hunting Weapon/Gun".

According to various rumors I have read, NRS Fuji became "Fuji LTD" at some point, and then ceased production altogether. After that point Howa controlled some of their assets.

As for the number in existence, I have seen numbers between 750-1500, though it would be real fun to found out more info.
 
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For what it's worth, in my endless quest to see how many old shotguns I can accumulate, I've come on quite a few "sticking" double guns. Each and every one, so far, has been cured by carefully reducing the length of the firing pins and reshaping the end of the pin. I have an old gunsmith do this for me. When the gun fires, if the firing pin is too long or not correctly shaped, is that the firing pin catches the shell. Old American "hardware store" doubles are just notorious for doing this, and they have soft steel firing pins that will "grow" and cause it.

You might ask a good gunsmith. It's scary to work on firing pins, especially for such a rare bird as an old Herter's. Too long and they "stick" and too short and they misfire, and you don't get to call up Herter's for a new firing pin.:)