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L4S Grey Hunter - Fabarm USA shop - cycling issues fixed!

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#1 ·
I bought an L4S Grey Hunter about a year ago now and instantly loved the gun. Broke it in on the local clays course with pheasant loads and for the most part afterwards it did a good job of cycling clays shells. Over the summer I put about 1500 rounds through it on the clays and trap courses and it was my constant companion during pheasant season. The last few times I took it out on the clays course though I couldn't get it to reliably cycle any target loads - even 1 1/8 1300fps, although it had zero issues cycling pheasant loads. When I emailed their gunsmith he mentioned it will have a harder time cycling when it's very cold out and I should follow the video for cleaning. I always had followed the video instructions and have been using Hornaday One Shot for all my guns.

After the pheasant season at local game farms ended I emailed their gunshop to let them know I was sending it in for a once over. They let me know when it arrived and mentioned they were running with less folks than usual due to the current circumstances so it may take longer than usual. I was happy when I got a call a couple days later, well ahead of what I'd expected. They tried a series of target shells and it failed to cycle 90% of the time. They took it in and gave it a good cleaning after which they tried the same series of target shells, 1oz and 1 1/8oz loads, various speeds and it cycled 100% of them with no issue.

Now, this surprised me because I thought I'd been doing a very good job of keeping it clean and lubed which I told them. He did mention using Remoil or other good gun oil is preferred over dry lube like One Shot. When I got it back I opened it up right away to take a look at how they'd oiled it and it was much "wetter" than what I'd been doing or how it appears it would be based on the video cleaning.

I had a chance to get out and shoot clays yesterday afternoon and I brought a variety of shells. 1oz 1300fps, 1 1/8oz 1300 fps, 1 1/8 1185fps and one or two others. The gun cycled all of them and was throwing them out a good 10+ feet easily. I was reminded how much I love that gun! It had been relegated to hunting use only since I was having trouble cycling clays shells so I haven't done much "bulk" shooting in a while. Firing through 3 boxes of shells on the course was such a joy! It certainly helps that I shoot it well but this is a great gun, it shoots where you point it and it's quick to target.

So, if anyone is having trouble with an L4S Hunter cycling target loads, give this a try and see if it helps, it sure did for me! Also, as expected based on what I'd heard their gunshop is top notch when it comes to communication, professionalism and turn around time.

Brian
 
#3 ·
In no way am I criticizing Hornaday One Shot, a lot of folks use it and like it. Having said that, and FWIW, I`ve yet to have a SA that I own, to include an L4S IH, not perform well out of the box after an initial relatively minor " cleaning " with a good CLP or light oil ( Rem Oil ) and left a LITTLE on the visible wet side. That was particularly so up in the bolt and rails area where things slide and metal contacts metal. Again, just my experience.
 
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RandyWakeman said:
byte_me said:
So, if anyone is having trouble with an L4S Hunter cycling target loads, give this a try and see if it helps, it sure did for me!
Give what a try, exactly?


It is a beautifully simple design and it doesn't need much care.
I know he can speak for himself, Randy, but I took it to mean that he was just suggesting running the gun a bit wetter than he seems to have been.
 
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jusanothajoe said:
Tidefanatic said:
jusanothajoe said:
My L4S sporting is failing to load a shell sometimes.
Was yours failing to eject or load ?
Did you give the guys at Fabarm a call?
Not yet, I have been running mine on the dry side.
I will try it wet and see what happens.
Give it a try. Doesn`t have to drip by any means. Don`t hesitate to call, though, if you feel the need. While I`ve not required any repairs, I`ve found them to be very responsive and personable. Take that back, sort of, on the repairs. Had a small screw back out. Called them. Had another one in my hand in three days, no charge. A small thing, but that`s the kind of service that will have somebody buying another gun from you.
 
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byte_me said:
Tidefanatic said:
RandyWakeman said:
byte_me said:
So, if anyone is having trouble with an L4S Hunter cycling target loads, give this a try and see if it helps, it sure did for me!
Give what a try, exactly?

) is what I was talking about.
These Fabarm gas autos are easy to clean once you've done it several times. I know it was for me. After 10K rounds in a L4S Sporter it takes me approx. 15 minutes to clean if I don't pull the trigger and disassemble the bolt/firing pin.

Gas system clean and dry (gas piston, gas piston housing, and mag. tube). Wet lubricant of choice on the action and bore snake for the barrel. That's it. When you get your procedure down, IMO, it's easier to clean than the 1100, SX1,2,&3, Smith & Wesson 1000, Beretta series 300 thru 391. I still have a vivid memory of a dremel being used on those 391 gas pistons.....what a pain that was.
 
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RandyWakeman said:
byte_me said:
So, if anyone is having trouble with an L4S Hunter cycling target loads, give this a try and see if it helps, it sure did for me!
Give what a try, exactly?


It is a beautifully simple design and it doesn't need much care.
Randy, do you know if fabarm has their Guns pre oiled out of the box? Or should I tear it down and oil?
 
#15 ·
senoiaslim said:
RandyWakeman said:
byte_me said:
So, if anyone is having trouble with an L4S Hunter cycling target loads, give this a try and see if it helps, it sure did for me!
Give what a try, exactly?


It is a beautifully simple design and it doesn't need much care.
Randy, do you know if fabarm has their Guns pre oiled out of the box? Or should I tear it down and oil?
I wish I could remember if mine was. No matter though, I like to take my new guns down ( at least part way ), wipe them down and lightly lube before shooting the first time. Sort of an opportunity to begin " getting acquainted ". I just personally think it`s a good practice.
 
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senoiaslim said:
RandyWakeman said:
byte_me said:
So, if anyone is having trouble with an L4S Hunter cycling target loads, give this a try and see if it helps, it sure did for me!
Give what a try, exactly?


It is a beautifully simple design and it doesn't need much care.
Randy, do you know if fabarm has their Guns pre oiled out of the box? Or should I tear it down and oil?
I'm sure Randy will be along soon but I shot my L4S Sporting out of the box and was not impressed at all. Lube the action and shoot some 1 1/8 oz. shells at least 1200 fps.
 
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Randy, I wonder if the L and S stand for “Long Stroke” piston ?

I assume the L4S holds 4 shells with plug removed and 3 installed?