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LANBER 2097 12/28/3" SE SPORT LUX - Good or Not?

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It looks just like the 2097 sporter I had. They are O.K. for what you spend on them but not up to the level of Beretta or Browning sporters. I believe Lanber is out of business and parts could be an issue down the road. I had little trouble with mine but only put 3000 shells through it before selling.A couple of my range buddies have them and one had problems with it and has moved on to a Beretta 686 sporter. If I knew then what I know now I would probably just have skipped the Lanber and gotten a used Citori.With cheaper double guns you get what you pay for.

Should have said both have moved on to better guns as have I.
 
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Many of us try and tell people that many of these cheap doubles aren't very good, but there are a few people here that just shout us down like we had said their baby was ugly or something. A $400 to $800 double barrel shotgun is just exactly like buying that many dollars worth of lottery tickets. A few people may win but many will lose. If you think you are one of the lucky ones, then consider buying the lottery tickets so you can double your money and buy a double barrel shotgun that isn't a gamble right from the get go.
 
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Oldfarmer said:
Many of us try and tell people that many of these cheap doubles aren't very good, but there are a few people here that just shout us down like we had said their baby was ugly or something.
Well said. They say they want opinions, but what they seek is validation, and they get it from some. A good used repeater is far better than a cheap O/U, but some people think you just have to have an O/U.
 
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Lanber went out of business well over a year ago so there may or may not be spares available. But, IMO Lanbers were the best of the budget guns and there are thousands out there in regular use. Although a spanish company, Lanber copied the "Rizzini" design, like so many of the Italian makers, and made a pretty good job of it in terms of reliability and durability. They aren't junkers that's for sure and there is a dedicated Lanber sub forum further down on SGW. Not surprisingly Lanbers aren't very refined or well finished with the triggers in particular being rough and draggy, also I've come across 1 or 2 with poor barrel regulation.

If you really want to buy new at that price point and really want an O/U, it's a better bet than the Turkish built equivalents.
 
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Initially when I first started shooting Sporting Clays, I purchased a lightly used Beretta A390ST for $465. It was a small enough investment for a person starting a new endeavor. I did not want to overspend on a new activity I might not continue pursuing. My biggest problem was that I hated the Beretta, so I sold it to my brother in law.

In November of 2012 I purchased a used Lanber 2097 Lux, imported by Berry's, who was the previous importer, before CDNN. Since then I've put 6175 rounds ( I count ) through it, without a single issue. I shoot all year round, sporting clays in the summer and 5 Stand and Wobble Trap in the winter. I've shot in rain, snow and below zero temperatures, and the Lanber has performed flawlessly. I have never had an issue. There are actually 3 of us shooting Lanbers at our club, no issues with any of them.

Lanber is a very well known shotgun in Europe, that never achieved a foothold in the US, which is unfortunate. Its easy for others to say " just buy a Citori, or just buy a Beretta", but the truth of the matter is that some folks cant afford it, and others want to make a prudent purchase.

Lanbers are an exceptional gun for the money. They aren't as glamorous as the Italian shotguns, but they will mash a clay target just as well. I also believe Lanbers are serviced by Bachelors in Michigan, should any issue arise.

For a minimal investment, they are HIGHLY recommended.
 
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If you are willing to gamble on a gun that is unsupported by a manufacturer, that may very well have 12# trigger pulls, that may have barrels that don't shoot to anywhere near the same point, then there are Lanbers and lots of other cheap doubles out there waiting for you. They may be perfect for your hunting and shooting needs. You will never realize that you miss some shots because the gun doesn't shoot where you think it does, heck you may even hit some shots for that very same reason. You won't realize how much a terrible trigger pull causes you to pull your shots, cause the gun isn't shooting where you think it should anyway. For one quarter the cost of one of these big gamble guns, you can pick up a proven repeater that will work with you and not against you. That is certainly the path I would recommend to anyone I care about.
 
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Oldfarmer said:
Many of us try and tell people that many of these cheap doubles aren't very good, but there are a few people here that just shout us down like we had said their baby was ugly or something. A $400 to $800 double barrel shotgun is just exactly like buying that many dollars worth of lottery tickets. A few people may win but many will lose. If you think you are one of the lucky ones, then consider buying the lottery tickets so you can double your money and buy a double barrel shotgun that isn't a gamble right from the get go.
Let me see now. I have bought 3 O/U shotguns in your $400-$800 range, a CZ, a Yildiz, and a Tristar. They are all humming right along, ZERO malfunctions. I guess I should have bought lottery tickets, I would have hit the big bucks 3 times. Not shouting you down, just showing the flaw in your comments. Other than my wife's cousin who had both a Mossberg SR I, and a Stoeger Condor that shot apart, I have no other first hand ( I don't buy that friend of a friend, or I knew a guy who said he knew someone, or I heard a guy cursing at his gun in a field, so it must have been one of those damn cheap turkish guns ) experience with Turkish guns failing. He also got a full refund on them both so no money was lost. He now shoots a CZ Canvasback (another Turkish gun) which has been nothing but perfect for him.

Since you are from the "Show Me" state, I will again offer to come down and shoot some Sporting Clays or 5 Stand with you, ( I don't do Trap, or Skeet ) you shoot your favorite brand of shotgun, I will bring my Turkish guns, afterward we will have a friendly brew or two, or if you don't partake, whatever you desire, have something to eat, some friendly chatter, and we will both go away having made a new friend, and will have had a great day shooting. I won't guarantee I will break them all, unfortunately my guns still shoot where I point them, which is not always where the clay target happens to be, but I can pretty much guarantee my CZ's will preform as they always do, which is flawless.

cdb
 
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cdb1097 said:
Let me see now. I have bought 3 O/U shotguns in your $400-$800 range, a CZ, a Yildiz, and a Tristar. They are all humming right along, ZERO malfunctions.
Hey cdb, how many rounds do you have through those 3 guns collectively?
 
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ceh383 said:
cdb1097 said:
Let me see now. I have bought 3 O/U shotguns in your $400-$800 range, a CZ, a Yildiz, and a Tristar. They are all humming right along, ZERO malfunctions.
Hey cdb, how many rounds do you have through those 3 guns collectively?
36,750

cdb
 
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So now we know of 2 more cheap doubles that shot themselves apart...oh but they of course don't count because no money was lost... I just have to bow to such superior logic.
 
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Oldfarmer said:
So now we know of 2 more cheap doubles that shot themselves apart...oh but they of course don't count because no money was lost... I just have to bow to such superior logic.
Said like a true Democrat politician - ignore context, twist words, add your own spin, reach conclusion, and make smarmy sarcastic comment.
 
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Oldfarmer said:
So now we know of 2 more cheap doubles that shot themselves apart...oh but they of course don't count because no money was lost... I just have to bow to such superior logic.
I got a Citori 16 Ga for ya that literally fell apart in 1,136 documented rounds, was sent to Browning 4 times, shipping and repairs cost me $945.50 and a BPS 20 Ga that was sent back to Browning twice before shooting 100 shells, (All documented). I'll be damn lucky to get 50% of my investment back. At least my wife's cousin got to shoot league for 2 years with each of those cheap guns, plus he got a full refund. Of course Oldfarmer you can ante up and purchase these 2 fine guns, for what I have in them.

cdb
 
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There are a lot of Cowboy shooters out there using Baikals. And they never break. yes - they can use a little tuning (about $150) to be easy to open, but that's about it. The baikal O/U's are the same. Not pretty, but real workhorses. I use my SxS Baikal in SASS shoots. Cost me $270 used. I shoot Brownings in skeet, but am going to buy a used Baikal O/U in 28 ga just to have fun with and experiment a little. I have no doubt that it will last as long as the Brownings I use. And I'm sure the Turkish and Spanish guns (most of them) will perform well. Stoeger and Marlin SR are exceptions. Have seen lots of these literally fall apart in competition.
 
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jer901 said:
Oldfarmer said:
So now we know of 2 more cheap doubles that shot themselves apart...oh but they of course don't count because no money was lost... I just have to bow to such superior logic.
Said like a true Democrat politician - ignore context, twist words, add your own spin, reach conclusion, and make smarmy sarcastic comment.
Were you expecting anything different :?: :?: :D
 
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cdb1097 said:
jer901 said:
Oldfarmer said:
So now we know of 2 more cheap doubles that shot themselves apart...oh but they of course don't count because no money was lost... I just have to bow to such superior logic.
Said like a true Democrat politician - ignore context, twist words, add your own spin, reach conclusion, and make smarmy sarcastic comment.
Were you expecting anything different :?: :?: :D
No - not from him
 
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Democrat? Boy that really shows just how wrong you can be!

Now the Baikal would be a reasonable choice for some, yes the triggers may need a little work but once done they are useable if still ugly. Whole lot less of a gamble there than with your unsupported Turkish guns. Who's going to give you your money back on a Lanber if it shoots apart?
 
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To be fair ,the Lanber is Spanish not Turkish. It's still a cheap double which is all the same in my book. The country of origin does not matter. I know of no country building a high quality cheap double gun.
 
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Oldfarmer said:
Democrat? Boy that really shows just how wrong you can be!

Now the Baikal would be a reasonable choice for some, yes the triggers may need a little work but once done they are useable if still ugly. Whole lot less of a gamble there than with your unsupported Turkish guns. Who's going to give you your money back on a Lanber if it shoots apart?
I didn't say you were a Democrat, I said you argue like one. And you do. So no, I'm not wrong.

My Turkish guns are well supported, thank you very much. I have three. They've never needed any support, but it's there if they ever do. I like them all better than my one single Browning. Had two Brownings, sold one because I didn't like it. The only shotgun I have that I like better than any of the Turks is a Ruger Red Label. Go figure.

And of course you know that the Lanber is a Spanish gun. But no matter, my comment is not about the Lanber at all. It's about how you seem to be obsessed with forcing your negative opinions into every conversation about guns you don't approve of and making smarmy and sarcastic remarks about/to those who do approve of them.
 
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I purchased a Lanber 2087 which is similar to a 2097 except that it is more of a field gun last December and it is an awesome gun. Although I have just been shooting sporting clays with it (1000-1200rds) I have been very impressed with both its build quality and handling performance. Fit and finish wise it doesn't look out of place in racks with more expensive guns and everyone that I showed it to has been impressed with it. Furthermore, Lanbers are very popular in Europe and have a good track record of durability.

I know some of the critics were moaning that Lanber is no longer in business but dude its 2014 and parts can readily be found on the internet if you look.

Also, the trigger on my Lanber is about a 6lb trigger.

I would buy with confidence.

Here are a few links I used to do research on Lanber before I pulled the trigger.

http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/reviews/sho ... gun-review

http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/lanbe ... orting_lux

http://www.clay-shooting.com/reviews/a-bargain-beauty/