I have owned both the old and newer SR. Both doubled. The SRII lasted longer than the SR. Mossberg has great customer service but I got tired of using it. I sold both and moved on. They were not quality guns for me.

 

They were not quality guns for me.

There are not good quality shotguns for anyone. Apparently, there is a market for junk-level shotguns that people love to buy. Mossberg isn't alone by any means, it is just giving people what they want.

 

Randy,

Have you actually handled and/or shot one of the new Gold Reserve guns? I would be curious to hear your first hand account of the gun. I believe that the OP was looking for any first hand knowledge.

 

The Silver Reserve guns have not been well made. And while the Turks are clearly capable of making some good guns, certainly some very pretty ones, Khan has not distinguished itself as one of the better manufacturers. Indeed, I have yet to see a Turkish made double that will handle high volume target shooting.

Now, having said that, I am ready to reserve judgment (piss poor pun intended) since the price point for the Gold Reserve gun (selling from @ $950 - $1200 depending on model) is much more realistic. When I see the Franchi Instinct selling at only a few hundred more, it puts me in two minds: 1) the Gold Reserve may indeed be a good field gun at $300 - $400 less than the Italians can do, or: 2) The Gold Reserve is thus named because it will deliver higher margins to Khan and Mossberg without really costing them any more. In any event, based on the Silver Reserve and Khan's other offerings, I would not wish to be a Beta tester on the "new gun" and would want to give it a while and see how it goes before exploring curiosity.

 

Khan https://khanarms.com/ is considered bottom of the barrel by most Turkish manufacturers, and has been. There is nothing "new" here.

 

They were not quality guns for me.

There are not good quality shotguns for anyone. Apparently, there is a market for junk-level shotguns that people love to buy. Mossberg isn't alone by any means, it is just giving people what they want.

That is why they are in business, and making money, that is how companies survive, if they make what people will not buy, they will go out of business. If cheap sells, they will make cheap, if expensive sells that is what they will make. Business does not drive markets, markets drive business. Just ask the american car companies about the 70's

cdb

 

If cheap guns don't hold up, as mine didn't, word gets around on forums like this. I would not spend another penny on a Khan made shotgun. I have had first had experience with Khan. Don't you do it. Take a fool's advice. ME!

 

If cheap guns don't hold up, as mine didn't, word gets around on forums like this. I would not spend another penny on a Khan made shotgun. I have had first had experience with Khan. Don't you do it. Take a fool's advice. ME!

Despite the wondrous so-called business advice, Khan product is not popular on the world stage and has never gained much ground. Whenever you have to buy something twice to achieve satisfaction, it is no one's bargain and no one's good investment.

 

If cheap guns don't hold up, as mine didn't, word gets around on forums like this. I would not spend another penny on a Khan made shotgun. I have had first had experience with Khan. Don't you do it. Take a fool's advice. ME!

Despite the wondrous so-called business advice, Khan product is not popular on the world stage and has never gained much ground. Whenever you have to buy something twice to achieve satisfaction, it is no one's bargain and no one's good investment.

Don't put words in my mouth Randy, I gave ZERO advice, I did not tell anyone to buy anything, You said, and I quote "It is just giving people what they want" your words, not mine, I just said that is how business works, they make what people want, if they don't, they go out of business, obviously people want what they make, or they would not be in business.

cdb

 

Anyway, happy first post. You didn't say for what purpose, how much price is a factor. However, if you have to have an O/U that is cheaper than a Beretta 686 or a Browning 725, the Weatherby Orion https://weatherby.com/store/orion-matte-blue/ is the pick of the sub-$1000 litter. It is the well-known and well-respected ATA SP. https://www.ataarms.com/en/sp .

 

Anyway, happy first post. You didn't say for what purpose, how much price is a factor. However, if you have to have an O/U that is cheaper than a Beretta 686 or a Browning 725, the Weatherby Orion Orion® Matte Blue is the pick of the sub-$1000 litter. It is the well-known and well-respected ATA SP. SP SERIES / PRODUCTS / ATA ARMS .

I can concur on the ATA/Weatherby sub $1000 dollar O/U is the best bet for a cheap gun... Although they are cost effective there is really nothing cheap about them... After doing some extensive research, I took the plunge and bought an ATA Supersport a few months back... So far so good. Build quality is nicer than you would expect for the price and the features such as the extended choke tubes and adjustable comb are something you don't usually see for a 950 dollar O/U. I've put maybe 750 rounds through it so far this summer on both the trap and sporting clays field and so far no issues, no doubling, no light firing pin hits and no broken parts, and the barrels seem to be regulated correctly... The only criticism I can level is it is rather tight to open but it is getting better with use.

Khan guns are not exactly considered quality products. Although they are somewhat popular in the UK, they are known for there issues of doubling and internal parts failures. I expect over time their quality may improve but for now, I would advise giving them a wide berth.

 

I would include Browning Cynergy as a well made gun cheaper than the 725.

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Gentlemen,

I own and shoot the SRII 28/20 Combo gun no experience with the GR gun, so far no problems with the SRII, other than the gun being a little to tight when you 1st get it out of the box. No doubling and decent trigger pull, I mostly use the 28 for shooting clays. This is an entry level gun, mine still works fine, we will see what happens as the gun ages however. Definitely not the quality gun my Browning Citori 28/20 combo gun was, but at 1/3rd the price I did not expect it to be. The guns light engraving looks decent, the Turkish walnut stock is kind of plain Jane. I would not call it a junk gun, however it is entry level, I also purchased 2, SXS 28 gauge Turkish guns. A CZ Bob White 28 and a Huglu 200A 28, both shoot well with no doubling and have decent trigger pull. The CZ 28 is heavy for a 28 on the correct size frame, it weighs 6.5lbs. The DT works well, shoots clays very well we will see how it does on Grouse this fall. The Huglu gun is a higher quality gun, nice Beretta style SST, 5.2lbs and really is a nice shooting double gun. Being an L.C. Smith man, these are my 1st modern Turkish guns, so far no real problems. None are L.C. Smith type quality guns however.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith Man

SRII 28/20 Combo Gun in its browning hard case.

 

If you are on a tight budget, try a Yildiz. I haven't tried one but their reputation among some of my friends is that for a low priced gun, they hold up and are solid shooters. I have an Academy near my NC home where they are sold. I should have bought a Yildiz instead of the SR but now have gone back to my SKB automatic that I acquired back in the 1960s.

 

I have been shooting my 3 Yildiz SPZ-ME's 12 -20-410 for over 6 years at doves/quail/rabbits and skeet. Never a problem with any of them.

 

I would rather shoot a reliable Mossberg 500 than a Turkish made Mossberg O/U. Just my opinion.

 

A couple of years ago a fellow brought a new in the box Mossberg OU to shoot skeet. The gun doubled twice and mis-fired once in the first four stations. He ended up buying a well used SKB from another club member for $500 and never had any more gun problems.

 

I'm a little late but my dad got a GR Black as my first O/U because it was a good price and had the features I wanted. Let me first start off by saying if you don't like heavy trigger pulls, DO NOT buy this gun. While I didn't measure it, my guess is the trigger pull is somewhere around 10 pounds. I held the weight of the gun on the trigger and it did not drop the hammer. I put somewhere around 600 rounds through it and a friend recommended a retired gunsmith to try to lighten the trigger. We took it to him, but the only way to lighten the trigger pull is to shave off the tension springs on the hammers. This lightened the trigger, but it also stopped firing the top barrel. We shimmed back the tension springs and intend on getting those and the firing pins replaced as they, especially the top barrel, are flattened from being hit by the hammers. Keep in mind this gun has probably 1000 trigger pulls. Before we had work done on it, I had a few misfires but not consistently like after the tension springs were shortened. This has all happened in the last few months and I got it April 2021. It's considerably lighter than my Caesar Guerini Summit that I got recently to replace the GR. Overall, it's an entry level gun so expect entry level quality and I would recommend pulling the stock off and inspecting the firing pins after a year of consistent use. I enjoyed my time on the gun and if I didn't need a working gun for team practice, I would have gotten it fixed and still be shooting it. My dad will be shooting it now because his old gun isn't worth putting money into.

 

The OP was asking about a new line of these gold reserve everybody gets hooked up and cross-eyed on the old silver reserve totally different. Very few really offered anything much useful to the op. I myself would like to get my hands on one of these and see just what these are like and are. There's lots of stuff the old-timers called junk and forget we've progressed 20 and 30 years down the road from the first Turkish made shotguns ......

 

What I have learned is that the Turkish arms industry needed to upgrade their products with nato grade materials if thy wanted to make arms for nato. That being said maybe they are better products now. Time will tell.

 

Once I discovered that these are (apparently) made by Khan, my interest waned.

I'm now looking into the KOFS-made .410s - and I was surprised to find that the Savage Stevens 555 Enhanced and the KOFS Sceptre XSE seem to be the same thing, other than branding. Furthermore, the very inexpensive ATI Cavalry series seem to be KOFS guns, too.

 

It was always interesting watching the Mossberg Sliver Reserve O/U shooters trying to break the gun open across their knees on the skeet range. Makes for a slow, probably less than satisfying round for them. I have not seen a Gold Reserve in action but do not hold much hope for it,

 

Buy once, cry once. In the long run, the gun purchase in itself is the cheapest part of gun ownership (all depending on the amount of shooting you do) I paid $1650 in 2015 for my Browning O/U and since then, I have paid many times over that amount for ammo and registration fees. I purchased my Beretta A300 back in Jan for $850 and have already spent more than that in ammo alone. Again, my point being, buy once, cry once.

I've seen the Silver Reserve in action at my gun club. The club guest wanted an O/U (was shooting a Win 11-87) and after two boxes of ammo, the brand spanking new gun would not open up!! Thankfully, both rounds had fired. The guest went back to shooting his 11-87 and the SR has not been seen since.

 

I purchased a 12G International Gold Reserve with 30" barrels for my youngest who was on his High School Trap & Skeet Teams. We've seen no issues with a few thousand rounds through it now. I bought a Browning 725 Sporting and was afraid he would need to use it, but he prefers his Mossberg. It kicks a lot more because the recoil pad is almost nonexistent. Other than that, it has served him well, consistently hitting 23-25.