It's about $3 a box/$30 a flat out of line, afaic. Clever RX3's @ $63/flat are a better shell than I am a shooter. I would gain nothing with the AA's.

 

This shell would be my go to shell if they offered it in #8. Not offered. Ill stay with with something else until they offer it in #8 shot.

 

That's my exact preferred set up:
- Zoli
- Extreme 20s in both barrels - shoots very tight for 20s but perfect for everything except inside 20 yds.
- Winchester AA 1oz 1,250 7 1/2s

Bought mine last year when they were listed as 28gms. Paid $75/flat less a $20 rebate, net $55. Bought via local club.

Using 8 size shot at a FITASC event last year (Mississippi State) and missing a 45 to 50+ yard bird every time, the ref said, "Too bad I can't score you for dusting that one. You dusted it at least twice." From then on, I only shoot 7 1/2s and Modified chokes except for Skeet or a charity event. I know that I may have broken that dang FITASC bird if I had centered it better even with the 8s. I get that. I'm just simplifying my shell and choke choices from now on.

I will say that I also liked the slightly slower (1,235fps) 1oz Clever Bol D'or but I just couldn't source them consistently. So, I'm just sticking with WinAA. And, I like that hull for reloading. My reloads act and look just like the shells with which I compete. So, that's nice.

 

That's my exact preferred set up:
- Zoli
- Extreme 20s in both barrels - shoots very tight for 20s but perfect for everything except inside 20 yds.
- Winchester AA 1oz 1,250 7 1/2s

Bought mine last year when they were listed as 28gms. Paid $75/flat less a $20 rebate, net $55. Bought via local club.

Using 8 size shot at a FITASC event last year (Mississippi State) and missing a 45 to 50+ yard bird every time, the ref said, "Too bad I can't score you for dusting that one. You dusted it at least twice." From then on, I only shoot 7 1/2s and Modified chokes except for Skeet or a charity event. I know that I may have broken that dang FITASC bird if I had centered it better even with the 8s. I get that. I'm just simplifying my shell and choke choices from now on.

I will say that I also liked the slightly slower (1,235fps) 1oz Clever Bol D'or but I just couldn't source them consistently. So, I'm just sticking with WinAA. And, I like that hull for reloading. My reloads act and look just like the shells with which I compete. So, that's nice.

I'm moving in the same direction as you, KISS. IC/Mod chokes for me, 7 1/2's, and spreader. Forget all the other noise and pay attention to which branch that target came from behind as it comes out with a full spring at 40 yds. with a nasty curl. Got to focus on what's important.

The shell situation is becoming worse IMO. Less availability and rising prices and here I thought we were in a recession.

 

Folks, don't forget about the 2 bucks a box rebate right now. Up to 50 boxes.

 

Can you get them at Walmart!

 

I have shot several flats of both (ones marked 28 gram and ones marked 1 oz), all in 7.5. The recoil is light (especially compared to the silver 1290 1 oz loads). They hit targets hard. I like them,
William

 

I have shot several flats of both (ones marked 28 gram and ones marked 1 oz), all in 7.5. The recoil is light (especially compared to the silver 1290 1 oz loads). They hit targets hard. I like them,
William

Well, there you have it from a NSCA National Champion. Actually, the Extreme 20s I use are the ones you sold me.

The 1,290fps are a great shell but they are oddly stiff on recoil. Kind of like shooting a .40 cal vs 9mm. Snappy.

I heard Wendell Cherry say he's using the WinAA 1oz 1,350. Shot ballistics shows that there isn't much speed difference after 40 yds, and, inside 40 yds it doesn't matter. Wish Wendell would shoot the 1,250s and save his shoulder a little.

 

. As I said, I liked everything, except the $89.50, which is not out of line.

$89.50 is too rich for my blood. Too many good shells in the $65 range.

 

I heard Wendell Cherry say he's using the WinAA 1oz 1,350. Shot ballistics shows that there isn't much speed difference after 40 yds, and, inside 40 yds it doesn't matter. Wish Wendell would shoot the 1,250s and save his shoulder a little.

I heard that too but I wasn't sure if that was a done deal or not.

1.125 @1300 = 22.2

1 @ 1350 = 19.6

an 11.7% reduction in recoil

I ran the numbers for the shells above using the weight for my gun. 8.4 pounds. It would be a safe bet his Perazzi is a fair bit heavier than my 725. So there is a reduction in recoil between what he did shoot and what he may be going to.

 

That's my exact preferred set up:
- Zoli
- Extreme 20s in both barrels - shoots very tight for 20s but perfect for everything except inside 20 yds.
- Winchester AA 1oz 1,250 7 1/2s

Bought mine last year when they were listed as 28gms. Paid $75/flat less a $20 rebate, net $55. Bought via local club.

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I put Extreme 15/20 in my Zoli a little while back and haven't taken them out. i just drop in a spreader if something is in my face (though not for FITASC of course).

 

I have shot several flats of both (ones marked 28 gram and ones marked 1 oz), all in 7.5. The recoil is light (especially compared to the silver 1290 1 oz loads). They hit targets hard. I like them,
William

Well, there you have it from a NSCA National Champion. Actually, the Extreme 20s I use are the ones you sold me.

The 1,290fps are a great shell but they are oddly stiff on recoil. Kind of like shooting a .40 cal vs 9mm. Snappy.

I heard Wendell Cherry say he's using the WinAA 1oz 1,350. Shot ballistics shows that there isn't much speed difference after 40 yds, and, inside 40 yds it doesn't matter. Wish Wendell would shoot the 1,250s and save his shoulder a little.

didn't know these existed and just bought 5 cases of the 1290's. Interesting there is a noticeable recoil difference. i'll be sure to try them when if i come across them. the 1290's are a bit stiff but for FITASC they take any question of shot size/velo out of my mind.

 

I heard Wendell Cherry say he's using the WinAA 1oz 1,350. Shot ballistics shows that there isn't much speed difference after 40 yds, and, inside 40 yds it doesn't matter. Wish Wendell would shoot the 1,250s and save his shoulder a little.

I heard that too but I wasn't sure if that was a done deal or not.

1.125 @1300 = 22.2

1 @ 1350 = 19.6

an 11.7% reduction in recoil

I ran the numbers for the shells above using the weight for my gun. 8.4 pounds. It would be a safe bet his Perazzi is a fair bit heavier than my 725. So there is a reduction in recoil between what he did shoot and what he may be going to.

1oz 1,250 = 17.1

A 23% reduction.

And, I don't think the extra 100 fps would change a thing as to scores as the shot speed drops significantly between 0 and 40 yards as it reaches sub Mach 1. And, as I recall, 8 size shot at initial speed 100fps greater than 7 1/2 is going slower by the 40 yd mark. If that is indeed the case, the energy is also much lower. Inside of 40 yds, you could use a more open choke and 8 1/2s at 1,145fps and do well, I suspect.

Or, really complicate it and use,

0-20 yds Skeet choke 9 shot
20-30 yds IC 8 1/2
30-40 yds LM/Skeet2 or Modified 8 or 7 1/2 depending on the presentation - edge or belly
40+ yds Modified+ 7 1/2

I'll just stick with 7 1/2s and Modified and apply all of my focus on connecting with the bird. Maybe I'll miss one bird per hundred because of the shot/choke and gain three because of the improved attention to the bird and reduced mental noise.

 

I'll just stick with 7 1/2s and Modified and apply all of my focus on connecting with the bird. Maybe I'll miss one bird per hundred because of the shot/choke and gain three because of the improved attention to the bird and reduced mental noise.

{hs# +1

 

Wish Wendell would shoot the 1,250s and save his shoulder a little.

I wish Wendell would just quit smoking...

 

Don't waste your time gentlemen. Every time I would suggest that he lighten up on his FPS, I was told that ammo wasn't good enough. "I can't feel it when it goes off". Well, he just dealt with his first major shoulder surgery in November.

As for the smoking, you won't catch me within 100 miles of him should he attempt to quit. :lol:

 

A great shell. Though I'd love to support American ammo, and would be willing to pay a bit more....AA's are more then a bit more. Rebate? Sure......but 5 cases is gone withing a month. Now.....rebate for say, 50? I'm good with that.....as long as the rebate system works better then govt. Oh...I do shoot premium ammo. I'm not comparing prices to a walmart brick.

 

I have shot several flats of both (ones marked 28 gram and ones marked 1 oz), all in 7.5. The recoil is light (especially compared to the silver 1290 1 oz loads). They hit targets hard. I like them,
William

William,

I've been trying to PM you, but my responses are stuck in my outbox. I believe that means that your inbox might be full? Hope you get a notice of this.

Thanks,

Jeff

 

Heck I don't care what it is I would just like to find some ammo that I like.

 

I have shot several flats of both (ones marked 28 gram and ones marked 1 oz), all in 7.5. The recoil is light (especially compared to the silver 1290 1 oz loads). They hit targets hard. I like them,
William

William,

I've been trying to PM you, but my responses are stuck in my outbox. I believe that means that your inbox might be full? Hope you get a notice of this.

Thanks,

Jeff

Pm's are not Stuck in your outbox They stay there until the designated recipient opens them,
then they move to the sent folder.
You have done all that you can do. It is up to the recipient now.
You can go edit those messages in your outbox until they are received though.
That can be handy if you do want to change something or even delete the PM.
The recipient will still be informed that you had sent a PM and deleted it though.

 

I have shot several flats of both (ones marked 28 gram and ones marked 1 oz), all in 7.5. The recoil is light (especially compared to the silver 1290 1 oz loads). They hit targets hard. I like them,
William

Bubba,

With over 229,000 registered lifetime targets to your credit, not to mention practice targets (and a National Championship), I'm thinking you might have underestimated the amount of those shells... Is it more like you have shot several pallets of both??????

Demi