A lot of people have bought them, and they seem very satisfied with them. Hopefully someone will do a longevity thread on them, kinda like the one I did on my CZ Canvasback.


cdb

 

A lot of people have bought them, and they seem very satisfied with them. Hopefully someone will do a longevity thread on them, kinda like the one I did on my CZ Canvasback.
cdb

I recommend a former Illinois electrician who made good his escape to Indiana for this wonderous task.

 

I just might buy one to do that, got to find a place round Indy to get one.


cdb

 

They are available on GunBroker any day for reasonable prices.

 

The bad thing about the turkish made shotguns and rifles are PARTS. Something breaks you sometimes wait month's before you can get the part to fix it..

 

Where did you come up with that one? Have you ever heard of a single Impala Plus owner waiting for parts?

 

No I haven't. I'm not the guy to ask about adjustable combs. While I've certainly tested and reviewed several models that have factory adjustable combs, I've never added one to a factory gun.
Paducah Shooter’s Supply
3919 Cairo Road
Paducha, KY 42001

Paducah Shooter's Supply is the warranty repair center, so that's who I'd contact about potential modifications.

I'm told that there are new for 2023 owners manuals already written and the warranty is now 5 years.

 

That is 5 years longer than Browning❗❗


cdb

 

I have already received some extra parts for mine, a 32” model, they even had extra barrels you could buy for $100. My gun will function any shell from 1oz to heavy 3” goose loads. I have upwards of 500 rounds through mine now, will be over 1000 by April and hopefully a couple hundred goose loads after that if the snow geese cooperate. So far it’s been utterly reliable.

 

Can you tell me where to look for barrel a nd parts pricing? The gun looks interesting.

 

A group of students from Çorumlu Educators, Industrialists and Businessmen's Association (ÇESİAD) visited 'İstanbul Silah', owned by our Corumlu compatriot Erol Kurt, operating in İstanbul.

From 2016: The students, who were informed about the activities and operation of the factory, had the opportunity to directly convey their questions to Erol Kurt. Erol Kurt, who was closely interested in the youth and showed the factory, announced that they have moved to a new 18 thousand square meter modern factory in Dudullu Organized Industrial Zone and that they will hold an official opening with the participation of ÇESİAD, and all Çorum residents are invited to the opening.

Upon the students' request to introduce themselves, Erol Kurt introduced himself as follows: "I am from the Uğurludağ district of Çorum. I studied here until the 2nd grade of primary school. Then we moved from here. I have been operating in the arms industry for 25 years. We established Istanbul Arms Industry in 2003 and have come a long way in 13 years. We have been making Winchester's hunting rifles for about 9 years and we ship all of them to America. We also make all of Browning's shotgun parts; from the barrel to the body, from the mechanism to the lock.

The main factor that led me to this sector at the beginning was the following: We come from the main kitchen of this business. My main profession is lathe leveling, that is, I am a mold-based person. For many years, we participated in the tenders of MKE and carried out their works. Then, in 1992, together with Akkar Arms Industry, we made Turkey's first pump shotgun. Of course, our targets in this field are very big, our arms exports to the American and European countries will continue, but if there are weapons that our army or our country needs, our work on this will always be at the forefront.

Apart from these, we will also be working on M-16 weapons in the future. So we're going to start with the shotgun and work our way up. We have always aimed to do the best and the highest quality, and we have never compromised on honesty for this cause. Our new location in Dudullu Organized Industrial Zone is in a much better condition and at the same time, it is the most modern weapon industry in Turkey after Sarsılmaz Arms Industry."

 

Heidi Schrader
Customer Service Representative
heidis@gzanders.com

 

Yup, that’s it.

 

You know, the real difference in a hunting gun and a gun used for competitive shooting? How many shells it will fire before it has to be replaced. A gun used for competition may shoot more shells in 6 hours than it would in a year or two of hunting. I had a Yildiz when they first came into the US and it was everything you could want in a good solid 20 gauge hunting shotgun. But I know for sure that it would never sand the abuse that I put one through in a year or two shooting clay. I think the Turkish guns are decent guns and run to good - very good. When you get to a competitive level Yildiz, your gonna pay the same as a B gun 2000.00 up. I see lots of youngsters coming into the sport and I see a lot of Turkish guns that all run under 1000.00 and I think the SA guns will handle it better than the O/U guns. My opinion only.

I have a Citadel .45 made in the Philippines. Story goes that when Colt could not supply enough of them in the 50s-70s, their tooling and designs were sent to the Philippines and made on contract there. I own several Colts from the basic to the best, have owned Springfield's and Kimber's as well as STI race guns. I have no doubt that when I pull the trigger on the Citadel that it will go bang as will all my other pistols. IF I EVER have any doubt at all in the least this will happen, that gun is history. If you can't shoot it and depend on it, I don't need it.

 

You know, the real difference in a hunting gun and a gun used for competitive shooting? How many shells it will fire before it has to be replaced.

That's an interesting but non-sensical, baseless theory. Rental guns prove that this is not at all the case.

 

Your right but most rental guns aren't Turkish or have not been until the last 10 years or so. My idea is that is a person is buying a shotgun for hunting, a Turkish gun may give them the service they want without spending all the dollars a B gun would cost. Also, I think we will see, in the future, quality control and manufacturing processes that will make theses guns more competitive with 2K range shotguns. I think we are already seeing a much better quality and more diversity than we saw 20 years ago. Go to Europe and one of the top competitive O/U shotguns is a Yildiz but this has only happened in the last few years.

Given time I think we will see better guns but I am also starting to see that the better quality is not going to be the same price as the cheap imports are now. I handled a Viper G2 and was very impressed with the look and how it felt to me. I understand the Retay Masai is getting quite a following here as well. I believe these guns are picking up the market that the 1100 and other SA guns held in the past.

Like I say, this is only MY opinion and it is worth what you paid for it. But seeing these changes happening at the clubs and ranges, I think, is a good thing

 

Your right but most rental guns aren't Turkish

Many are. In fact, roughly 2/3rds of all shotguns sold in the U.S. are made in Turkey. Many of the others (Browning / Beretta / Winchester) rely heavily on Turkish parts, although they are assembled elsewhere. What guns do you think "have to be replaced"?

A Beretta 303 or 390 'hunting gun' vs. a clays gun: what is the difference? A Citori 'hunting gun" or a Citori "clays gun," the difference? Often, they are the same guns, just configured a bit differently. Not a new idea, as in 870 / 1100 / Super-X Model One, 686 / 687 / Citori, etc.

 

Here's my new Impala Plus Review.

I ordered an Impala Plus Emerald 26" 12 Ga from Bud's on 2/21, sending them a personal check. The gun arrived at my local FFL today, 3/8. There is definitely a delay for a personal check but I was in no hurry. FFL charged $20 for the transfer, so my all done cost was $505.45.

Here it is in the box. No damage from shipping.

Here it is unboxed with all the included items. Assembly is very easy but with this model a slight bit different than the instructions dictate. The booklet tells you to put on the barrel first and then slide the forearm over the barrel lug and magazine tube. It won't work that way. The barrel lug has to be inserted in the cutout in the forearm and then both slid on together. No big deal; it's pretty obvious when you look at the forearm.

Fit and finish was good on the wood and the cerakote. The gun was well oiled throughout with one exception. The installed MOD choke had very little grease on the threads; that is no longer the case. I disassembled everything except the bolt and cleaned the entire barrel/choke tube/receiver/trigger mechanism. I was looking for stray shavings from machining or anything indicating sloppy workmanship or assembly. It was absolutely free of any sort of debris or rough machining marks. There seemed to be a very slight powder residue in the barrel, likely from a shot or two to check functionality perhaps. I wiped down all parts and re-lubed everything including the bolt. The action works smooth and slick. I left it pretty wet for the coming weekend clay shooting. Trigger pull was smooth, not gritty. I have not yet gauged it but it seems pretty normal, in line with my other shotguns. In fact, it might be a little bit lighter than my Benelli M1s and M2.

The empty gun weighed 6 pounds, 14 3/4 ounces on an accurate scale.

Fit and Finish: Tight on buttstock to receiver. Seems to be a designed slight gap between forearm and receiver. You can
see a thin metal flange or something between the end of the forearm and the receiver. I am quite happy and somewhat impressed with the woodwork and machining on this $500 shotgun.

As far as the wood, the forearm has a bit of figure to it. The buttstock is pretty plain straight grain.

For those of you contemplating one and deciding on barrel length, I offer this pic.

Here is the Emerald 26" lined up equally with my old Ithaca/SKB 500 3" Duck Gun that wears 30" barrels. The Emerald is about 1/4" longer than the Ithaca.

My only minor complaint so far is that there is absolutely no information on the shim kit in the booklet that I have found. Nor did I find anything on the Istanbul Silah website. I am sure I'll end up doing some fitting with the shims and it would be nice to understand what the numbers indicate. I have sent an email to Zanders to see if they have some info.

I'm pretty pleased with it overall. I really bought it just to see how good a $500 SA shotgun could be. I'll know more this weekend after trap and skeet if the weather allows some shooting. If I don't like it I'm sure I can sell it on for not much of a loss. In looks alone, it looks like a more expensive shotgun.

Let's see how she shoots.

 

Assembly is very easy but with this model a slight bit different than the instructions dictate. The booklet tells you to put on the barrel first and then slide the forearm over the barrel lug and magazine tube. It won't work that way. The barrel lug has to be inserted in the cutout in the forearm and then both slid on together. No big deal; it's pretty obvious when you look at the forearm.

FYI - there are two forend designs. I have one of each design for mine.

Thanks for the review!

 

Nice looking gun❗


cdb

 

Your gun looks familiar.

 

Yah, kinda amazing how close they look! I admit you piqued my interest. I have three much younger friends getting interested in clay sports. Like most everyone with young families they’re not too sure about jumping in with a $2k shotgun. I thought this might make a nice try-it-all-out loaner for them. If they keep going they might like one as their starter gun. Good for clays or any game animals taken by shotgun.

I forgot to mention there was no snap on Hi-Viz type front sight. Just the small fluorescent light pipe type. Ok by me.

 

I forgot to mention there was no snap on Hi-Viz type front sight. Just the small fluorescent light pipe type. Ok by me.

Same here: I didn't want one. The gold bead / snap-on Hi-Viz is a different SKU.

 

Randy,
bht849 was talking about the problem of getting parts for the Turkish made guns here in the USA, he is correct. I have a Huglu 200A 28 gauge that I want to install one of their factory Butt Plates on, the part is impossible to get here in the USA. I also want a Butt Plate for my CZ Bob White 28 gauge G2 gun, not available here in the USA either, that I know of. These Turkish guns are nice guns and they work well, except for getting parts. If they can not get me a Butt Plate I doubt very much, if they can get other parts for us when needed.
If you have some contact for supplying these Turkish made Butt Plates please let us know.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith Man

 

Randy,
bht849 was talking about the problem of getting parts for the Turkish made guns here in the USA, he is correct. I have a Huglu 200A 28 gauge that I want to install one of their factory Butt Plates on, the part is impossible to get here in the USA.

That's far too broad of a paintbrush. Surely you are quite aware that Remington parts are hard to find, made right here in the good old USA, along with many parts from Benelli, Browning, Beretta, etc., etc. Even parts supplies for the most popular mass-produced guns (A-5, 1100, 870) are hardly always easy to get. A Huglo is only one gun. Any decent gunsmith can fit a proper buttplate or pad, that isn't exactly wake the President material.

The Impala Plus, the subject of this thread, is very easy to get parts for, not there there are many parts involved. Right now, today, there is one 12 gauge 3 inch action.

The problem is not with the manufacturer: the problem is with the AMERICAN importers that fail to support their products by ordering reasonable quantities of common parts in the first place.

 

I think the numbers on the shims are just part numbers, that’s how they seem to be represented in the part’s diagram in the manual. I could be wrong though.

 

I've noticed that it appears the retail prices have gone up bit. (not msrp, but retail)

Cheers

 

I've noticed that it appears the retail prices have gone up bit. (not msrp, but retail)
Cheers

The closest thing to the Impala Plus Emerald is the $1199 street price Affinity 3 Elite.

At significantly less than 1/2 the price, the Impala Plus is the better shotgun: turn-key charging handle, better recoil pad, better choke tubes, better-balanced. There is nothing out there that comes close to competing with an Impala Plus today in a short-recoil kinematic action 12 gauge . . . nothing remotely close at anywhere near the price.

 

Not really: https://www.budsgunshop.com/search.php/q/impala+plus .

That is crazy good.

 

Not really: https://www.budsgunshop.com/search.php/q/impala+plus .

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I guess I should have qualified my statement.
I was specifically looking at the Emerald 28" & 30".

Cheers

 

"How about a good, old fashioned "I don't know." I don't. "

Indeed. No one except Istanbul Silah does apparently.

I generally shoot a straighter stock than what most companies offer. I end up with a great view of the back of the receiver on many brands. The only shim-able shotguns I have are Benellis and so far shimming those hasn't produced any pitch problems. As always, YMMV.

 

I was looking at the emerald Impala plus myself .

 

There is a new importer, new shipments have already arrived (Impala Plus) and other containers have been shipped (Impala Plus and Monza). Expect a new website very soon.

 

Mr Wakeman. Do you see a time where the Impala Plus shotguns may one day start showing up at big box stores or become available at some smaller local gun shops?

 

Yes to both . . . they are already available at local gun shops and the ones that don't stock them certainly can.

 

Has anyone put any amount of rounds through one of these guns ?

 

They should run 5000 rounds without cleaning.

 

I have 500 rounds through mine, it will have thousands by fall, I loaned it to a friend whose kid is trying it out on a trap team till he finds the gun he wants.