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New SX3 Ultimate Sporting

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#1 ·
I received my 30" SX3 Ultimate Sporting 2 weeks ago and have had a chance to get some initial impressions.

First: I went through my process of unboxing and cleaning everything before the first firing session. The case it comes in is very nice. Much better than the other factory plastic boxes I've seen. It might not be the thing for shipping by plane across country but it is very suitable for transporting from home to the range. There are compartments for everything and it all stays well in place. The gun itself is very nice with nice wood grain. On my example I was glad I did a pre-clean as there were evident metal contaminants left from the manufacturing process inside the receiver. Field stripping is very easy and there are several videos online to preview. If you've owned a semi-auto shotgun, it should be no issue to strip and reassemble. Once I was satisfied with the mechanics I moved on to make an initial adjustment to the comb. This was where I ran into the only issue so far. I loosened the two Allen set screws and low and behold, it would not budge. I thought I had missed something so I looked on the all knowing interweb and no luck. I guess I'm getting weak so I tried again and really tugged on it. Nope! I removed the butt pad thinking maybe they hid a locking screw under there, but no. I tried tapping it with a rubber mallet to see if it would move. Nope!. So by now I have a sneaking suspicion I know what the issue may be. I removed a utility razor blade from a knife and VERY carefully aligned it in the groove where the cheek rest meets the stock. Again very carefully, I tapped it into the gap and used it as a wedge. After just a few taps it popped loose and was easily removed. The issue was as I had suspected. The stock and cheek pad were assembled in the factory before the stain process was completely dry. It ended up being a pretty good glue to lock them together. I did not do any damage and there are no marks visible from my efforts so no harm no foul other than the aggravation. Once I had it loose it was very easy to make the adjustments.

A few days later I finally had a chance to shoot a round and my local club. My impressions so far are:
1) Very low recoil. I was shooting 1-1/8 oz #8 @ 1200 fps. Three of the guys I shoot with tried it and all three were equally impressed. All of them remarked about there being no kick.
2) The action is very smooth and solid. I also have a Weatherby SA-08 that I shoot and this feels very different. It feels almost like it is on ball bearings rather than sliding.
3) The trigger is not bad. I had read that the heavy pull was a problem. I don't have the fine trigger feel that someone who shoots a lot might so I can't say whether it is true or not. I'll have to get better before the one on this gun is a problem for me.
4) No failures. Feeds fine and ejects strongly.
5) I shot a personal best "for me". I'm by no means a competitive shooter but I really like this shotgun. Many of the clays I broke were black dust instead of the usual chips and pieces I get.

Overall, I'm very happy with the SX-3. I decided to go this route rather than an O/U because for the money most double guns are in the low to entry group according to what you see and hear. On the other hand, the Ultimate is one of the best auto-loaders out there. I've read the Benelli Performance Shop Super Sport is a nice gun but very "over-priced" for the cosmetic buttons and knobs. The Fabarms guns are really nice but there are very few dealers. I would be a little concerned should I ever need service. Also, they are a good $1000 bucks more than what I paid.

The SX3 checks all of my list. Be prepared, the guys at the club will ask you about it when they see it. It is a very nice looking piece as well. :mrgreen:
 
#2 ·
I recently purchased a Winchester Super-X Model 3.Bought the gun and a week later the duck season opened.Did not have a chance to try the gun out or clean it.Took it out opening day and was able to bag 4 black ducks.Gun worked perfectly with 3 inch duck loads.

There are a few others in my area who have Winchester Super-X Model 3 guns and all are very happy with them.No problems what so ever.One fellow, rarely if ever ,cleans his gun and uses it under adverse conditions, says he has never had a problem with his gun.
 
#3 ·
I bought an SX-3 Sporting about a month ago. I've shot 3 rounds of clays with it so far and it's a nice gun. Same action as a Browning Silver that I have and it's a reasonably soft shooter. The Fabarm XLR 5 that I own is hands down the softest shooter I have. Recoil from that gun is noticeably softer than the Winchester. But the Winchester is a very classy looking gun. I need to play with the shims to get a perfect fit. I need a bit more drop and then to raise the comb just a tad to get it right.

I'll have to see if the comb on my gun is stuck the same way yours is/was.
 
#4 ·
Update: After shooting a few more days at my local club I did begin to have some failures to load issue. The first shot would be fine and eject but the following shell would be half out of the magazine tube and laying on the lifter. I called Winchester to inquire about the problem.

Let me say they were easy to contact and very helpful. The first question they had was what shells I was using. I've been staying with 1-1/8 Oz of #8 @ 1200 fps. He said I should step up the power level slightly and I would see a big difference. Per the conversation, 1200 was right on the ragged edge for what the piston is designed for. That was likely throwing off the timing. Keep in mind on 100 round course I was seeing 4 or 5 issues.

The weather here has finally broken to rainy and colder so I have not had a chance to go back with it. I'll update here again as to my results. Hope everyone has a great Christmas...
 
#5 ·
TNRC51 said:
Update: After shooting a few more days at my local club I did begin to have some failures to load issue. The first shot would be fine and eject but the following shell would be half out of the magazine tube and laying on the lifter. I called Winchester to inquire about the problem.

Let me say they were easy to contact and very helpful. The first question they had was what shells I was using. I've been staying with 1-1/8 Oz of #8 @ 1200 fps. He said I should step up the power level slightly and I would see a big difference. Per the conversation, 1200 was right on the ragged edge for what the piston is designed for. That was likely throwing off the timing. Keep in mind on 100 round course I was seeing 4 or 5 issues.

The weather here has finally broken to rainy and colder so I have not had a chance to go back with it. I'll update here again as to my results. Hope everyone has a great Christmas...
I've almost always used 1oz or 7/8oz in my sporting model and only experienced ejection problems with 7/8 in very cold temperatures, under 15 degrees.

You didn't say what type of ammo you were using, in my experience stay away from the winchester universals or Walmart value pack loads. They cause nothing but problems in both my sx3 and my older sx2 sporting model.
 
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TNRC51 said:
..........The first question they had was what shells I was using. I've been staying with 1-1/8 Oz of #8 @ 1200 fps. He said I should step up the power level slightly and I would see a big difference. Per the conversation, 1200 was right on the ragged edge for what the piston is designed for. ......
TNRC51...not questioning you....but I am questioning the guys at Winchester and their response to you. Honestly...that sounds like a BS answer from them. The gas mechanism in the SX3 is exactly like that in a Browning Silver....which the Browning manual says will function with any 1 oz. or heavier load. Even the SX3 manual states that 1 oz and heavier loads will cycle the action. So in a sporting gun....1200 fps is borderline...???

I own both guns and both of mine run on 1 oz loads at 1145-1200 fps all day long. I don't see how a 1 & 1/8 oz load of 8's at 1200 fps is borderline in that gun.
 
#10 ·
TNRC51 said:
Update: After shooting a few more days at my local club I did begin to have some failures to load issue. The first shot would be fine and eject but the following shell would be half out of the magazine tube and laying on the lifter. I called Winchester to inquire about the problem.

Let me say they were easy to contact and very helpful. The first question they had was what shells I was using. I've been staying with 1-1/8 Oz of #8 @ 1200 fps. He said I should step up the power level slightly and I would see a big difference. Per the conversation, 1200 was right on the ragged edge for what the piston is designed for. That was likely throwing off the timing. Keep in mind on 100 round course I was seeing 4 or 5 issues.
Whoever you spoke with at Browning (there is no Winchester) was the wrong person. Really, really the wrong person. He should read the owners manual. http://www.winchesterguns.com/content/d ... sx3-om.pdf

12 gauge, 3" chamber - These models have a 3" chamber designed to shoot factory 12 gauge loads including 2¾" and 3" (1 oz. to 2 oz.) field loads. (They are not designed to shoot the lightest factory 7/8 oz. and 1 oz. target loads or any 3½" shells.)


No Clays gun should have any problem at all with 1 oz. 1200 fps loads, much less 1-1/8 oz. 1200 fps loads.
 
#11 ·
Hmm, my SX3 sporting is a couple of years old and is a 2 3/4" gun. Spec's on the new sporting say 2 3/4" chamber. I have never had a problem shooting any shell including 7/8 oz factory shells. I don't reload so I buy whats cheap including Winchester Universals once in a while. I do get some flames coming out of the ejection port once in a while, but they always go bang and come out of the gun. Ditto on who ever you talked to at Winchester,Browning,FHN is full of crap. As far as the generic owners manual that comes with the sporting, about the only thing it addresses is the adjustable comb on the gun.