Just a MX5 with new cosmetics. You could buy a used MX5 for half the $

 

Kind of hard to say,A member here ordered one and the first shipment he was told "should" be here close to when the Nationals start.

 

Having bought five Perazzis, starting with a Mirage & a MX3 in the late eighties, and two MX8 L' s & a MX8 SC3 in 2011 & 2012 I'd have to say I prefer the MX8 box lock drop trigger guns, (type 4), over any of the other types that Perazzi has offered in the past, like the MX5. Not that Perazzi made any really bad guns, even going back to their start in the 60's. This new MXS looks to be an attempt to have a lower priced gun in their line that offers shooters a few options and is purpose built for the US Sporting Clays (NSCA) shooter who wants the handling and quality of a P-Gun without paying the $10K (2013 price) to join the club. I'm sure it's a fine addition to the diverse line of guns that Perazzi offers I just wonder if it will sell in significant numbers with so many MX8 & MX2000 & MX12 used guns for sale in the market place that can be bought for similar $ or even less. The market will answer this question in time as it did with the MX5 & MX3 guns of the past.

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The new (Oct-Nov) Clay Shooting USA has an article-test on the new P. MXS answers a lot of these questions.

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Just read the article in Clay Shooting USA. Seems like Al Kondak was the impetus behind the development of the MXS. If It's truly a Sporting Clays gun and "IF" Perazzi really wants to draw attention to the new MXS why not have Wendall Cherry & George Digweed switch from their MX2000/8 & MX2000S Perazzis to an MXS?

Those two shooters account for more Perazzi wins in S/C's & FITASC events around the World than anybody and they are featured in Perazzi advertising. Beretta has their "team" shooters using their DT-11 O/Us and not their top of the line SO5 so maybe Perazzi should do the same? Just a thought.

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I haven't see MXS in the flesh but, seems like it's Perazzi's attempt to go after mid-priced gun market (mid-priced Beretta, Guerini, Zoli, Blaser, etc.). This might be my personal preference but if I am about to spent $7K on the gun, I would go for used Perazzi with boss lockup or used DT-10/11 with cross-bolt. I also dislike those large letters on the receiver - reminds me of hideous (in my opinion) K-80...

 

I did talk to a few dealers yesterday and they dont know a whole lot about them. Different gun in terms of lock up and others. I dont think I could also get past the ugly looks of the receiver. I think I will either look at a new MX8 or MX 12 or a used one.

 

I hope Al Kondak is right and that this MXS model boosts Perazzi sales and shooter participation in the US Sporting Clays circle.

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Does look like a remake of the MX5 but modernized with bigger barrels, choke option etc. If they put really plain jane wood on them, it will be a tough sell at that price, but if they do a nice wood upgrade it will get more attention. The pricing is right in the hole, not a lot of guns in the $6-7K market. Maybe Blaser, who they may be targeting as the competition?

That original price on the Beretta DT11 was at 7K, which has jumped in a year to almost 9K. Other than that you have a 692 at close to 5K and not much else.

I think it is great that Perazzi is making an "affordable" gun. If it is as nice or nicer than your standard Blaser or beretta, it might do well.

 

I wonder why they didn't just lower the price on a plan wood, plane receiver, MX12 to say $7,995? I mean with the MX8 models, including the engraved versions, and the MX12 models, including the engraved versions, and the MX2000/8 & MX2000/S models, and that's just the Sporting Clays and FITASC versions, Perazzi doesn't look like they needed another "model" especially with all of the special trap, Pigeon, Helice, and ATA trap and Skeet versions they offer. Seems like trying to put in one more variant at a price point of $6,700 isn't all that much lower than a plan receiver, grade 0 wood, non-choke tubed MX12. The difference in having a new receiver and a new lock system as opposed to the tried and proven "MX8" is maybe asking for trouble. I don't know all that much about their market research or even if Perazzi sales are off due to the price increases of the last couple of years and the tighter control over their dealers from discounting guns from suggested retail but Zoli and Beretta and CG all have guns in the $4K range for S/C's and maybe Perazzi thinks that a "NEW" Perazzi for $6,700 will be perceived as a step up and it's less then the base K-80 which is over $10,000 now.

 

The problem is used competition guns, properly taken care of, are just as good as a brand new gun off the rack. They simply don't get worn to the point of obsolesce like cars do. Shoot the crap out of them, get them rebuilt and reblued, and they are good as new.

When a company comes out with a new gun (especially a gun without ANY new features), it will immediately be compared with what used guns can be purchased for the same price.

@ $6700, you're looking at a well taken care of Kolar, Krieghoff, Perazzi MX8/MX2000. Considering similar features, there really isn't much reason to roll the dice on a brand new model with no track record.

For anyone looking at one of these MXSs, they'd be MUCH better off buying a used but well cared for MX8/MX2000/MX12/MX2000S for the same $, and not taking the price hit of buying a new gun and selling it as a used one. And if you really love the idea of a round monoblock fixed trigger Perazzi, buy a MX5...

Unless you're someone who just has to have brand new, and will accept nothing else.

 

it'd be nice if the average gun buyer could tell if a used gun is perfectly refurbished like you suggest. Most cannot. I am very experienced and have been fooled.

PLUS , I have had brand new guns break....be fixed and never have an problem for 100,000 shells.

One never knows. I think the MXS w/ what looks like a 682 type lock up, will be fine. Most shooters are NOT going to shoot 100,000 shells and they still want a Perazzi .

In my many years of shooting (and before than many more in bird hunting) , it is a mystery as to why the gun mfger's do anything. Beretta puts more crazy designs in the market than anyone can shake a stick at....but still won't make a 391 in 28g. And it's SO 5 is so finicky , using it for high volume shooting w/out a gunsmith on retainer is the triumph of hope over experience. I know.

 

I wonder why they didn't just lower the price on a plan wood, plane receiver, MX12 to say $7,995? I mean with the MX8 models, including the engraved versions, and the MX12 models, including the engraved versions, and the MX2000/8 & MX2000/S models, and that's just the Sporting Clays and FITASC versions, Perazzi doesn't look like they needed another "model" especially with all of the special trap, Pigeon, Helice, and ATA trap and Skeet versions they offer. Seems like trying to put in one more variant at a price point of $6,700 isn't all that much lower than a plan receiver, grade 0 wood, non-choke tubed MX12. The difference in having a new receiver and a new lock system as opposed to the tried and proven "MX8" is maybe asking for trouble. I don't know all that much about their market research or even if Perazzi sales are off due to the price increases of the last couple of years and the tighter control over their dealers from discounting guns from suggested retail but Zoli and Beretta and CG all have guns in the $4K range for S/C's and maybe Perazzi thinks that a "NEW" Perazzi for $6,700 will be perceived as a step up and it's less then the base K-80 which is over $10,000 now.

The base wood on an MX-8 is awful, I don't think they can lower the wood quality any further for an MX12 to decrease the price. I saw a review of the MXS and a picture showing the "base" wood and I laughed. It would have been an expensive upgrade for an MX8. I am sure all MXS's will look just like it. As far as the receiver goes, I think Perazzi is starting an ugly contest with Beretta.

 

I'm going to take a good look at these at the NSCA Nat in a few weeks, and if I can demo one.

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The base wood on Perazzis may not look like much but they are almost always perfect on the match of the grain to the stresses in the stocks. In other words, not much to look at but will last forever. Lots of guys will make you and after market stock. Perazzi will upgrade the wood for you and build you a custom stock when you buy new from factory approved dealer. Try that with most other high end guns. Heck, Beretta will paint the fence post to give it some grain. It fools a surprising number of people who buy them.

 

+1 p-shooter,the quality on a used gun has never evaporated over usage and you will save a lot of $'s.

 

The base wood on Perazzis may not look like much but they are almost always perfect on the match of the grain to the stresses in the stocks. In other words, not much to look at but will last forever. Lots of guys will make you and after market stock. Perazzi will upgrade the wood for you and build you a custom stock when you buy new from factory approved dealer. Try that with most other high end guns. Heck, Beretta will paint the fence post to give it some grain. It fools a surprising number of people who buy them.

The fore end on my 2012 MX8 cracked in less than a year and the process of getting a custom stock on a new gun from Perazzi is not a process I am looking forward to repeating.

 

Has anyone gotten one of the new Perazzi MXS Sporting Clays models? I'm interested to hear how it handles and shoots compared to the various MX8/MX2000/MX12/MX2000S guns with similar barrel lengths. Curious minds want to know!

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Has anyone gotten one of the new Perazzi MXS Sporting Clays models? I'm interested to hear how it handles and shoots compared to the various MX8/MX2000/MX12/MX2000S guns with similar barrel lengths. Curious minds want to know!

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Jerry: I didn't get to shoot it but I did look at it quite closely at the Perazzi store at Nat'ls.

It was a little more clunky than a base MX 8. I did not love the way it balanced. Of course , I have been spoiled by the several MX 8's I have owned.

It's lock up resembles a 682 which , while not as perfect as a Boss bifurcated lumps set-up , still has worked fine for over 30 yrs.

The wood on the model at Nat'ls was better than average, but one would expect that at Nat'l's. All in all a nice gun and w/ a little negotiating , I think it will fill a niche below the MX 8 quite well.

 

Pacific Sporting Arms has one listed for sale

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =379960365

As well as Great Lakes

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =379943239

 

Sera explain to me in more detail what you mean by more clunky? I'm thinking of buying one.
JW

 

when I picked it up , it did not have that purrfect between the hands dynamic that my several MX 8's have. It felt a little heavy on each end.

Now--that may be your preferred balance , but it's not mine and it's not what defines a Perazzi in my opinion.

The gun locked up nicely , had very good wood to metal fit and over was well made. The one they had had a very nice stick of wood on it. The balance might be due to several fixable things....length of bbls , type of mid rib , density of the wood in the stock , etc......and the next one I pick up might feel wonderful.

So try it . If you get one that has the feel you like , the rest of it will be a fine gun.

 

I still haven't handled one of the new MXS models yet but I'm sure they are equal to a MX5 or MX3 Perazzi as far as fit and finish and reliability is concerned. I would like to see and handle one though just for the sake of knowing what the newest model Perazzi is like.

 

Agreed, I picked one up at BSA and my first thought was "clunky". My 682 gold e felt more like a Perazzi than the MXS. I then picked up the Parcours, and thought, wow, Krieghoff built a Perazzi for Krieghoff shooters.