Have a Pernice, have not handled the Expedition. Pernice is a round body gun. Solid top rib, wood butt plate.

 

Given you have the F3 for a comp gun I'd be leaning towards the Pernice for something a little more different from the F3?
Round body and looks real classy.

 

But no 12 GA Pernice, correct? Most of my time is 12/20. Like the 28, use it little. The Zoli are to upgrade a 686 12/20/28 field set up

 

I have an Z-Expedition in 20 ga with 30" barrels. It weighs around 6 3/4 pounds and is very dynamic, works great for hunting or sporting. I believe the Pernice is identical to the Expedition mechanically, just with a rounded action, different engraving and Churchill rib on the barrel vs ventilated for the Expedition. The stocks appears the same, except for the shaping around the action.

 

Have a Pernice and a Z-Sport. Pernice has a solid narrow game rib, solid half mid rib (barrels are not connected starting about ½ down to the mono block, true round action, and a POW grip - weight on mine is about 6.5lbs. You can get it in a 20/28/.410 combo. Expedition seems more like a Z-Sport with a POW stock and may have a full mid rib. Think the Expedition weighs a bit more too.

 

Thank you. Best comparison I have read.

 

Here is a pic of my Expedition, you'll see the POW grip and relative action shape

 

Hi, just seen your Z Expedition and noticed a different engraving. As I am interested in buying an Expedition and the local Zoli representative imports the Expedition with the same engravings, I wonder: Why some Expeditions come in this form, whilst in Zoli's website they are presented only with their original Expedition appearance?

 

Here is a pic of my Expedition, you'll see the POW grip and relative action shape

Looks like it is on my list. Who makes that cleaning kit?

 

Here is a pic of my Expedition, you'll see the POW grip and relative action shape

Looks like it is on my list. Who makes that cleaning kit?

The cleaning kit is a Negrini, I got a great deal on it from Gunbroker.

I believe the current Expeditions have a different engraving pattern, but they are all the same mechanically. They are very well made guns, you can't do much better for the price, and as others have said, customer service is excellent.

 

I'll add that like you my competition gun is an F3 and I don't consider my Zoli Expedition or Ambassador a step down in quality at all. As others have said, they feel different, more lithe and trim like a Perazzi (action lock up is Boss style too), but as solid as anything out there.

 

My Z Sport is second to none in quality of build. Absolutely feels and sounds like a Perazzi when you close it. Stunning and wonderful fitting wood as well. My only beef on the Pernice (and i'm told the Expedition does the same) is the ping on closing and shooting (the latter noticeable if you listen carefully). My presumption is it's a function of weight savings.

 

My Z Sport is second to none in quality of build. Absolutely feels and sounds like a Perazzi when you close it. Stunning and wonderful fitting wood as well. My only beef on the Pernice (and i'm told the Expedition does the same) is the ping on closing and shooting (the latter noticeable if you listen carefully). My presumption is it's a function of weight savings.

I wonder if the "ping" has to do with the solid rib on the Pernice? My Expedition and Ambassador game gun do not ping when closing the action, but they both have vented ribs.

 

My Pernice had a ping in the beginning... went away after I put a couple of flats through it.

 

My Z Sport is second to none in quality of build. Absolutely feels and sounds like a Perazzi when you close it. Stunning and wonderful fitting wood as well. My only beef on the Pernice (and i'm told the Expedition does the same) is the ping on closing and shooting (the latter noticeable if you listen carefully). My presumption is it's a function of weight savings.

I wonder if the "ping" has to do with the solid rib on the Pernice? My Expedition and Ambassador game gun do not ping when closing the action, but they both have vented ribs.

The ping on my Pernice is the opening lever. You can just touch it with your finger when closing the gun and it stops. Very high freq. vibration. Apparently not unique to the brand/style of gun.

 

My understanding was the expedition was essentially a Kronos with engraving, not a z gun.

I have one with sporting stock and barrels. When I called Zoli they told me some people ordered them this was so they could have an engraved gun without paying z gun or higher grade price.

Is this true?

 

I know your post is from a couple of years ago but I am curious if you ever got to the bottom of this. The Expedition looks like a beautiful Kronos.

 

Yep, same components, but assemblers are under the gun on the Kronos model to pump them out. Less hand fitting, less time, lower quality of finish. Paulo basically said they have significantly less time to do the job, infer what you will.

 

Sorry to resuscitate an old thread - Would any of you know the major differences between the Z Sport and Pernice? Is the Pernice a Z model gun? Confusing as on site the Pernice Ambassador is under the “Z Ambassador” label but not the standard. Curious to get a pair of either Z Sport or Pernice 12Gauges for game shooting. Thx in advance.

 

My understanding is the Pernice is more game orientated Z sport is definitely more clay comp orientated, round body on the Pernice.
I have never seen a Pernice in the flesh but they do look pretty sweet. Not sure what the weight difference is between the two models though.
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