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Pilla Glasses Fogging

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#1 ·
Hello! I live in the humid south. I’ve had troubles with the Outlaw X7 fogging. I bought the new lenses with ICE coating that was supposed to help with fogging. They do it too. I noticed there are the new X7 Razor lenses that are supposed to reduce it, but I don’t want to invest another $800 and no change. Has anyone battled this and come up with a solution?
 
#2 ·
I don’t have a solution, but will be following this thread as it has been an issue for my son as well. We live in Tennessee and the summers are definitely hot and humid. When he was swimming on the high school team, there was stuff to put on goggle lens to keep them from fogging but I’m afraid to put that on a set of Pillas.
 
#3 ·
I was shooting in houston recently and the only thing i could do on my X6s was put them just slightly further away from my face to get a bit more air flow. I used some zeiss lens cleaner every few stations (bought at walmart for $4) and that seemed to help, but didnt get rid of it. If it got really bad on a station i’d just wave them up and down with the frames on my ears to get the condensation off. I don’t know that theres a total solution for extreme humidity, but if there is I’d like to hear it as well.
 
#4 ·
I use the X6 lens and have had similar fogging issues when shooting in super humid conditions (Florida, etc.). I also use the anti-fog spray coating and wipes but doesn’t seem to help very much. I’ve also purchased the Top Gun lens (which only works on X6 frames) that have additional ventilation that definitely helps but it’s not a 100% cure.

I’m planning to purchase another set of frames to switch between glasses in these types of conditions as well as other scenarios.
 
#12 ·
I shoot in humid South Carolina, but not with Pilla glasses. The Cat Crap helps. However, not for a long time, I do one application, lasts for a couple of SC stands, then i have to take the glasses off and wipe with a glasses cloth. I think the glasses cloth gets some of the CC on it so it help. I generally just do the CC application and take the glasses off after every stand.

I would be willing to pay more than $xx if I could find something that worked long term.
 
#11 ·
A couple things promote fogging...a temperature gradient between your body and the lens temperature and of course a lot of moisture, in the air and coming out of your pores. Removing a hat does two things, allows a bit more air exchange around the lenses and allows the lens to warm up in the sun more than in the shade of your cap. Moving the lenses away from your face a tad can also help with air exchange and getting them away from your moisture some. There is no surefire fix/cure. Some of the solutions help a little but often not enough. I have heard good things about cat crap, have not used it.

And yes, wrap around frame/lenses are more prone to fogging because they are typically close to the face (good for optics but not fogging) and somewhat larger decreasing air exchange around/behind the lenses.
 
#15 ·
Aside from the ridiculous price, that is the second reason I would not buy Pilla shooting glasses. I've tried "Cat Crap" and a bunch of other anti-fogging agents to no avail. I fog every wrap-around set of glasses I've ever owned. Decot HyWyd is my choice for shooting glasses. They have good lenses, a wide variety of color choices and most importantly, they sit far enough away from my face to let ample air pass behind the lenses. I've never had a pair fog on me.
 
#16 ·
Hmmmm. I have hunted for over 60 years and do not wear glasses hunting. Aside from range rules, I see no reason to wear them if they are fogging over. And plenty of humid days I put them in my vest. I have never had blow back or any similar issues with shotguns although I have never had a bolt action shotgun. I guess some will get on a high horse and lecture me on following the rules, but they will be people who don't always come to a full stop nor mind the speed limits when driving.
 
#17 ·
I've had glasses stop shot from other hunters in the field and stop bits of broken clays when on the sporting course. Awhile back there was a story on here about a guy that was pheasant hunting and one pellet from way across the field hit him in the eye and blinded him in that eye. I'm big on wearing glasses and ear pro, even when hunting.
 
#21 ·
You guys are going to laugh but what about drilling a few air holes in the brim of the hat, close to your forehead for ventilation. I only say this because I fight fogging with ski goggles all the time. The only cure is ventilation. The helmet and goggles are almost as one, so they drill holes in the helmet to let the humid air from the goggles escape.
 
#22 ·
I use the Copa frames, and simply adjust them for more forward tilt in the summer. It allows more air flow, and I haven't had a fogging problem, even here in toasty Arizona.
 
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#26 ·
Just like the roof of a house needs airflow from soffit to ridge vent to keep condensation from forming, glasses need airflow around the lens to prevent fogging. The aggressive wrap and close-fitting nature of the lens design does not lend for good airflow. I think there is a reason the Outlaw series has seen some refinements over the years in the form of 'Copa Mundial' temples to pivot the lens and create better gaps at the top and bottom relative to the face and Top Gun series lenses with more holes drilled in them. I think there is a reason the Panther line has stayed largely unchanged and also that RE Ranger's masks look more like Panther with no similar full-envelope Outlaw-like mask.

Aside from range rules, I see no reason to wear them if they are fogging over.
I've had glasses stop shot from other hunters in the field and stop bits of broken clays when on the sporting course. Awhile back there was a story on here about a guy that was pheasant hunting and one pellet from way across the field hit him in the eye and blinded him in that eye. I'm big on wearing glasses and ear pro, even when hunting.
Agree with Apexcars. I won't lecture on rules; even minimally exposed rock ledge you can't see will ricochet shot right back at you. It has happened to me and those around me; I don't want anyone to lose their most important piece of equipment for shooting.

Aside from the ridiculous price, that is the second reason I would not buy Pilla shooting glasses.
They offer things like the Raptor and 500-series glasses. The price argument stands, but they don't just ignore the market segment who doesn't want mask-style glasses.
 
#27 ·
I had Pilla Panthers and they stood away from my face enough that fogging wasn’t a major issue. Now that I need prescription lenses I wear Ranger Edge glasses and they also stand off of my face enough so that fogging isn’t an issue.
Anyone wear the Velociraptor prescription glasses? My Rangers work, but I miss the clarity and color of Pillas.
 
#28 ·
Over the years, I’ve experimented and owned many different shooting glasses (most of what’s already been mentioned). I use them for both bird hunting and sporting clays. The worst fogging issues are usually when I’m profusely sweating (think FL when it’s 98% humidity and hot and/or when moving quickly to my dog on point after tromping through 2-3 miles of brush). If you’re wearing a “wrap around” style of shooting glasses (which I prefer), pretty likely you will have fogged glasses no matter what preventative care or brand of glasses you wear. At least that’s been my experience.

I really like my Pillas but agree they are expensive and the new ICE technology hasn’t really done much (IMHO) to prevent fogging. I haven’t tried the Copa frames yet to adjust airflow, that sounds promising. I did purchase the Top Gun lens for my X6 Outlaws and that has helped with the ventilation cut outs. Many shooters will alternate with another pair of glasses in these conditions. Expensive but effective and quick between stations. Also allows for fast adjustment to different light conditions.
 
#29 ·
I haven't had a problem with fogging on my Outlaw X6 with the Copa frames. I'm in Fort Worth Texas so it's humid but not like Miami humid. I also wear a cap while shooting. Maybe I keep them farther off my face than some because I almost never have a problem with glasses fogging no matter where I am or what I'm doing. Well, except maybe snow skiing while wearing a face mask.

As to the cost of Pilla, I agree they are over priced. I got mine on sale with the Copa frames and one ICE lens for $299 and wanted to try them out. I personally don't see much difference from my previous glasses, except for color choices, which were Rudy Project other than they seem more scratch resistant. Maybe I just don't see that good though.
 
#31 ·
I never had an issue till yesterday. Shot in the rain in Okeechobee and the bottom portion of my Ice lenses was fogging. Never really interfered with the shot since you look out of the top for the shot and it wiped off easily enough, but still a little annoying. But, this is also the first time I've ever had an issue of my Pillas fogging in about 2 years of ownership and shooting in all conditions from a sauna here in Florida to freezing mornings duck hunting.