We pretty much all see-process colors differently so if possible best to try lenses for yourself

 

I wish Pilla would label lenses in a way I could understand. Is there a secret decoder available?

 

Yes, go to claytargetvision.com and click lens guide.

 

The problem is where do you go to try the different lenses. Not around me, I would have to get on a plane to find a place where I could look at lenses. The thought that all people see colors differently is not true, it has just been repeated so many times that people think it is true. If it was you couldn't call blue, blue or red, red. Red isn't blue to some people and green isn't pink. People do see shades differently but that does not effect the lens color. Colorblind is a different story, but you can have fun with a colorblind friend, especially when you give him a pink golf ball and don't tell him until the ninth hole. I like the RHP(red hot chili pepper) and the 28CR for bright conditions but moreover I like the Max Orange series, it isn't red but closer than anything else. However, I like to use the lightest lens I can, if it starts burning my eyes I go darker. I also prefer to make the orange target stand out as opposed to dulling out the background colors. No disrespect hopper810 I just disagree.

 

No one you know uses Pilla's ? No offense taken we all have our thoughts and opinions so it's all good Trust me I've tried-used MANY different colors and took the same thought process Dennis does. If whatever color makes the Clays POP background becomes a non factor if you're truly focusing on the target the background disappears. Just my .02 worth .

 

I’ve looked thru a set of 18 RHC and I liked the way orange targets looked thru them. Just thoughts needed on the other reds.

 

Really cant give you advice as you should be your own judge our eyes are different. I have a high prescription so I use RX inserts and my eyes are very sensitive to light. You just have to try each and see how they work on real targets against different backgrounds and seasons and time of the day. I went through 15 different lenses and ended up with 4 I like and my eyes are comfortable with and not strained. I use a 10CED for direct and full sun and sun/snow reflection reduction, Then a 24CMX for green backgrounds and indirect sun mid morning/noon/afternoon, a 44CMX or Sun filtered through clouds or Medium Light and a 64CMX for early morning and late afternoon or lower light, then the default 98AR for night or indoors.

 

I like 28CR, solid filter raspberry against dark background or blue sky, if there are white clouds however orange targets will disappear.

 

29CIMX for sunny days, I use this one the most, and 55PWC for cloudy days.

 

+1 for those two and add in the 44CMX for intermediate light. I used to rely on the 47CIHC until I made a direct comparison using targets in the air and on the ground and found the orange series made some targets pop that were much less visible with the 47.

 

Pilla in my mind has made a critical error with too many choices without much distinction. I own all the CGR lenses as well as clear and am very happy, they cover all the bases

 

This may seem inconsistent, but here’s what I have found works best for me based on conditions … 92 CIL for low/dim light; 47 CIHC for most light; 19 CIN for bright light and/or targets in a bright sky. If I could have only one, it would be the 47 CIHC. As others have said, all of us see targets differently. So, it’s best to try different lenses (if you can). As an alternative to that, I’d recommend e-mailing Dennis at Claytargetvision. He’s been extremely helpful and friendly to me.

 

RHCP is the lens I use the most. 16crhc is my favorite for bright sun.

 

I sold a lens to a friend I didn't use, used the cash to purchase the Red Hot Chili Pepper (RHCP), maybe my new favorite.

Jury is still out on the new nose piece.

 

My goto is the 29 CIMX. 29 is the percent of light transmission (100 being totally clear); C means "Chroma" coating which helps with overall clarity; I or IR means IR filtration (helps significantly with clarity in darker tints); MX is the Max-Orange profile, but this isn't as "max" as the older orange poppers and is a comfortable pop, PLUS it pops green targets too while giving really good contrast on black up in the sky.

I also like the 64 CMX for medium overcast/light-rain type weather; the 92 CIL (L=lime) for very dark skies or under lights; finally I carry the 26 IRED (ED=enhanced definition) for very bright, clear conditions like the AZ desert.

My next lens to demo will be the RHCP which is "Red Hot Chili Pepper." They apparently abandoned the conventional markings to limit hacking by other manufacturers(?) I understand this is a slightly lighter version of the CIMX, around 50% transmission, with some neutralizer (purple) added; so still pops orange a fair amount while attenuating green backgrounds slightly -- no idea how it affects green targets and why I want to demo it.

 

My goto is the 29 CIMX. 29 is the percent of light transmission (100 being totally clear); C means "Chroma" coating which helps with overall clarity; I or IR means IR filtration (helps significantly with clarity in darker tints); MX is the Max-Orange profile, but this isn't as "max" as the older orange poppers and is a comfortable pop, PLUS it pops green targets too while giving really good contrast on black up in the sky.

I also like the 64 CMX for medium overcast/light-rain type weather; the 92 CIL (L=lime) for very dark skies or under lights; finally I carry the 26 IRED (ED=enhanced definition) for very bright, clear conditions like the AZ desert.

My next lens to demo will be the RHCP which is "Red Hot Chili Pepper." They apparently abandoned the conventional markings to limit hacking by other manufacturers(?) I understand this is a slightly lighter version of the CIMX, around 50% transmission, with some neutralizer (purple) added; so still pops orange a fair amount while attenuating green backgrounds slightly -- no idea how it affects green targets and why I want to demo it.

I have the RHCP lens and it is a good lens. I only bought it because of the name, but I use it a lot.

 

I believe RHCP is 54% light transmission, if memory serves.

 

Okay, thanks for correcting as I was not certain

 

I wear contacts, so can't comment on any RX type lenses.

Pilla eyewear is in a class by itself. I don't know how they, and Ziess do it, but the targets, even trees and the background just seem to be more precisely defined.

Dennis from Clay Target Vision helped me choose my 3 lenses that come with a "kit". I would recommend you give him a call. It's nice to have an "expert" in your corner. I had the opportunity to try as many lenses as I wanted while looking at targets places on the ground and snow (Wisconsin) at various distances.

Before I went to see him, I thought I would never go below a lense that only transmits 50% of the light, as you always hear to go with as light of a shade as possible. (The 29CMIX is a first choice on sunny days).

I don't think Ziess lenses are on an absolute scale. If you looked through a tube with the end sealed with several layers of duct tape (i.e. can't see anything) and it being wide open, I don't see how the 29CIMX can be listed as transmitting only 29% of light. On a sunny day, I just don't feel as though I'm over 70% of the way to total darkness. Be that as it may, the different "numbers" and colorations, will help your eyes relax and really define the targets.

 

I wear contacts, so can't comment on any RX type lenses.

Pilla eyewear is in a class by itself. I don't know how they, and Ziess do it, but the targets, even trees and the background just seem to be more precisely defined.

Dennis from Clay Target Vision helped me choose my 3 lenses that come with a "kit". I would recommend you give him a call. It's nice to have an "expert" in your corner. I had the opportunity to try as many lenses as I wanted while looking at targets places on the ground and snow (Wisconsin) at various distances.

Before I went to see him, I thought I would never go below a lense that only transmits 50% of the light, as you always hear to go with as light of a shade as possible. (The 29CMIX is a first choice on sunny days).

I don't think Ziess lenses are on an absolute scale. If you looked through a tube with the end sealed with several layers of duct tape (i.e. can't see anything) and it being wide open, I don't see how the 29CIMX can be listed as transmitting only 29% of light. On a sunny day, I just don't feel as though I'm over 70% of the way to total darkness. Be that as it may, the different "numbers" and colorations, will help your eyes relax and really define the targets.

I have the same feeling about the 29cmix, it seems as though the RHCP is similar in light transmission. I like both lens.

 

I loved my X7 set until I had to go with the insert. Have not been able to adjust to the fish eye lens effect. Taking the insert out when changing colors is a pain as well. Easy to smudge.
bc

 

I bought the RHCP lens as well and didn’t like it at all. Sold it to a buddy and he loves it. Different strokes. My go to is 60 High Contrast Persimmon. Which is an older lens. Newer equivalent is 62 CHCP. When it gets to bright I use 10 CED. Also a 22N when looking at a very green background. 92 CIL for under the lights or really overcast days.

 

as an alternate POV i very much dislike the 'max' type lenses. too much orange becomes a blob for me. some lenses look really cool when you put them on but don't really work over a 3 hour shoot. at least for me. i use a 26 cied (i think that's it) for very bright days and i think a 52chc for general conditions. have a few others but find these do a lot of the work.

 

I agree. I have the 45 Max and don’t love it. It does make the orange pop. But I can’t see enough definition to pick out a spot on the clay to focus on.

 

After trying MANY lenses pretty much settled on these (subject to change maybe 😆 )
10CED
LT Quartz
28CR
50CED
60CHCW
92CHCL
Dennis has been a big help all along the way Pilla Eyewear | Claytargetvision. | Pilla Lenses and Frames

 

Hey Hopper, it looks like your theory is working out. I concede for now. Ha ha.

 

So for my Top Guns I have a 26CIED which is ok, a RHCP which I like and a 65CIMN which is also ok. I just ordered a 26CIED. In the Panthers I have the 44CMX which I really like and a half dozen pre Zeiss lenses mostly in red. I don't find that the 65CIMN brightens the orange much so I will look for another light lens to do it. I shoot with a friend that has shot Oakley's with a bronze lens for 20 years, he just doesn't care about the latest things but he is that way with a lot of things. I don't know if I hit more targets because of Pilla lenses but it is fun using them and trying different lenses and it is entertainment which is what Sporting Clays, Trap, and Skeet are all about.

 

As others have stated…it’s always better to try before you buy. That said, I do prefer lenses with some red. For what it’s worth my current lenses are:
19CIN
26 CIED
47 CIHC
60 CHCW
I haven’t found a tinted lens that works in low light and therefore in those circumstances I have a 98AR. You’ll notice that most of my lenses are in the Infrared series which may be a series you want to check out.

 

55PWC I use 90% of the time. One has to learn what your eyes like.

 

Used this today instead of my regular 64CMX.

Shot really well and felt like I could see detail a little better. Who knows?

 

I really like the 55. Color has little of everything, and for my eyes has a good balance.

 

Pills just came out with the “Blood Orange” which is probably supposed to replace the 55PWC. I was going to buy it but compared the two at the NE regional and just couldn’t see any difference no matter how hard I tried. Stuck with my 55PWC but I did buy the RHCP which is a little less intense and more relaxing compared to the 44CMX but still makes targets pop.