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Remington Arms Ilion plant to close in March 2024 | News | romesentinel.com

 

The total annihilation of Remington seems complete.

 

Sad news indeed!

 

Very sad but not surprising. Look what happened to Winchester (only a name now).

 

Are Winchester guns made in Turkey (or some other foreign country) now? Will that be the eventual fate of Remington firearms?

 

Just another company moving out of communist state.

Welcome to Georgia. We still believe in freedom. For now, at least.

 

"Capital goes where it is welcome and well treated."

Walter Wreston

 

Are there plans to move Remington firearms manufacturing to another State, or is this the end?

Edit: I was sending this when the post above it appeared. Doesn't seem like total annihilation now.

 

Explain why this is an annihilation of Remington Arms. Moving a manufacturing facility from the unfriendly state of New York to the friendly state of Georgia. Abandoning an old and obsolete plant and moving to a new modern facility is a step in the right direction if Rem Arms is going to be able to survive.

 

Aren’t Winchester M70 built in Portugal?

 

Yes they are. And the 101 in Japan by Miroku.

 

Total failure of leadership of the past. Should have left NY years ago.

 

This is true. Why did they stay in a hell hole of over taxation, anti gun, over regulation state. Likely another state would have given them significant financial incentives to move.

 

Isn't the current iteration of Remington manufacturing and marketing good quality models 870, 1100 and 700?

 

Let's see- leave a storied tradition place (where the toxic cleanup will cost untold millions), eliminate over paid union workers with non-union; have tax breaks and a modern facility allowing it to compete with the rest of the world - sounds more like a Phoenix Rising to me

 

OCT.2, 2020--
Edwards and Roundhill intend to keep the people at Remington who know how to make guns and let them do exactly that. Roundhill wants to act as a traditional board of directors, letting management do what they know how to do best…build quality firearms for America’s hunting and sport shooters. And they want to let them do that without meddling from above in day-to-day operations. Edwards says Roundhill is well fixed for capital with no bank debt. That alone will be a big change for Big Green. And they intend to keep producing firearms in Ilion, New York, where the company has been operating since 1816.

Roundhill is due to close on the deal on Monday and Edwards told us he wants to get the Ilion workforce back from furlough and turning out firearms again just as fast at they can get all of the paperwork completed with the ATF. They’ll keep the Sturgis, South Dakota and Lenoir City, Tennessee facilities, too, and they’re in discussions with the city of Huntsville to maintain that newer production facility as well.

In short, he wants to make sure that Remington’s people — finally, once again — have the resources and tools to do their job and make guns again the right way, the way that sustained them for generations and that earned the brand the trust of millions of gun buyers. When I asked him if there was a message he’d like to convey to the gun-buying public Edwards declined. He said he doesn’t want Roundhill or Remington to talk, he just wants them to do.

 

That was then - when the news cameras were on them - and this is now

 

I wonder what has or what will happen to all the guns that were in the museum in Ilion? There was a lot of valuable/collectable firearms in it. The one off Parker Trojan Skeet Gun comes to mind.

 

A museum might help the local economy as a tourist draw

 

Give it a few years they will be filing for bankruptcy again. The outdated products can't compete with the more modern firearms being produced in Europe. What happened to the plant in NC? Remington Arms closing plant, laying off more than 100 workers (wxii12.com) Moving south doesn't cure the issues.

 

I wonder if any other manufacturer has replicated this ?

 

Remington, as it existed in Ilion had a lot of burden, with so much labor and the political left of NY, the frivolous lawsuits, etc., death by a thousand cuts, and a lot of them being self inflicted.
At least some of the guns are still available new, even if they aren’t stamped: “ILION, NY” anymore.

 

I wish them all the best. Leaving NY looks like a wise move. Being from an anti-gun communist state, I have watched manufactures like Les Baer and LMT move across the river to escape a hostile environment.

 

It may be possible for the museum to liquidate their firearms during the next gun buy back event.

 

As a long term owner of Remington shotguns, especially target versions of the 870 and 1100, I'm saddened by this news but not surprised.

It's also sad to see the workers being let go.

Here's a couple of my ramblings on the subject;

1.) Skilled Workers; I assume the workers won't have the option to move even if they were willing to do so. IMHO, most management, especially in the past 20 year to present do not value worker knowledge, experience and dedication.

Years ago when the then owners of Remington moved the Marlin operation to Ilion, I recall they told the employees that they were laying off, "we can make these rifles anywhere". Those that followed the history of Marlin production after the move saw that they could NOT build a quality Marlin that most customers would want to buy. Those guns needed what has been referred to a "tribal knowledge" for proper assembly.


2.) The Ilion Facility. It's amazing to me to recall Remington used to do things like put on the Remington Shooting School, which I attended in the fall of 1995.

This included a fairly extensive plant tour.

I was amazed at the sprawling size of the old plant. I forget he details but I saw that things like receivers followed a torturous path over two or three floors from start to finish. I marveled at the time how they kept track of it all. This would have been a lot more challenging than a line where the rough work started at one end of a continuous line and exited as finished parts, all on one floor.


Add this to other similar issues running an old plant on op of the legal and political roadblocks and the outcome is not good.

I'm 71 now and I guess its inevitable that if you live long enough, you'll see the demise of a lot of things that you liked.

 

Don't forget Remington was first bought Ceribus...........Milked dry, borrowed against and left to die . Before being resurected by Remarms (vista outdoors??)......Glad to see the move. Hope all goes well.

Nothing.........Us or material stuff last forever...........Always enjoy the good while it last.

 

Don't forget Remington was first bought Ceribus...........Milked dry, borrowed against and left to die .

Gotta love those investment firms (Well, no, I don't)

 

I am hoping that this will be a positive and productive move. Surely the political atmosphere in GA will be a big improvement over that in NY.

 

I don’t see what the big deal is. How does leaving an anti gun state for a pro 2nd amendment state signify the end of Remington firearms? It’s not like RemArms is the first gun company to move from New England to a more gun friendly state…

Smith & Wesson recently moved from Massachusetts to Tennessee. Sounds like good business sense to me. Why would a company stay where it isn’t wanted? Anyone with half a brain could see this coming.

 

I'll be happy to buy the first guns off the line from GA.

Jim

 

I don’t know if moving to Georgia is that wise. The state politics is turning blue. All the liberals in Atlanta are taking control of the state. Just like the liberals in the NYC area have dominated the rest of NY State.

 

This could be one piece of a larger puzzle regarding the closure of the Ilion facility.

This past summer, the union and RemArms reached an agreement on a new three year contract.

United Mine Workers of America International President Cecil Roberts released this statement about the Ilion situation.

“It is extremely disappointing to hear that RemArms LLC is closing its Ilion plant. The workers in Ilion enabled RemArms to rise from the ashes of the Remington Arms bankruptcy in 2020-21. Without these workers and their dedication to producing the best firearms in the world, this company simply would not exist.

“Our members, the community, local political leaders and the UMWA worked tirelessly to keep this facility open and to return the workers to the jobs they have had for over 100 years. The RemArms Ilion plant is the birthplace of America’s oldest gunmaker, which first started making guns there in 1816.

“This announcement by the company is a slap in the face to all of them. The timing adds insult to injury for those affected. Merry Christmas from RemArms.

“The simple fact is that RemArms will never be able to match the experience and dedication of the workers in Central New York, who for generations worked in this plant and kept this company alive.

“We urge RemArms LLC to reconsider this decision and explore alternative solutions that would allow the Ilion plant to remain operational. The extensive cleanup for abandoning this plant could potentially cost the town of Ilion and the state of New York a massive amount of money.

“As the affected workers and their families face an uncertain future, the UMWA rallies behind them, offering support and solidarity. The UMWA is committed to exploring all legal avenues to keep these union jobs where they belong, in Ilion, New York. Together, we will continue to fight for justice and the preservation of their jobs.”

-United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) International President Cecil E. Roberts

 

Beretta did the same thing in Maryland. Moved out of the state to Tennessee because liberal legislature and governor passed business killing anti-gun law: Why Beretta is moving its gun factory to Tennessee.
Smith and Wesson headed south as well: Smith & Wesson opens new headquarters Tennessee after moving from Mass.
Appears to be industry infrastructure shift, and probably a smart business move on the part of RemArms.

 

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