Did Retay sponsor your trip?

 

Did Retay sponsor your trip?

Probably!

 

Impressive facility.

Ask not for whom the CNC's hum, they hum for thee.

 

Well, I'm impressed, but who sells them?

 

Does Beretta or any other gun makers sponsor trips for gun writers?

Some cool features like the speed unloading and I do like the all aluminum trigger group housing made from same material as receiver. Good video as I had never seen laser checkering before. Thanks.

 

 

Skeet_Man, I think that is a "Yes" .

Randy, everyone on this board has to make a living, no one begrudges you a comped trip. But, considering you consistently tout certain guns over others, some transparency regarding whether or not you are a paid reviewer/endorser of said guns is not too much to ask.

In full disclosure, neither Dr Duk nor myself are paid by Beretta...although my wife would certainly appreciate it if I were!

 

Skeet_Man, I think that is a "Yes" .

Randy, everyone on this board has to make a living, no one begrudges you a comped trip. But, considering you consistently tout certain guns over others, some transparency regarding whether or not you are a paid reviewer/endorser of said guns is not too much to ask.

In full disclosure, neither Dr Duk nor myself are paid by Beretta...although my wife would certainly appreciate it if I were!

This.

My point was that IF this was in fact sponsored by Retay, Federal law and the FTC dictate that this MUST be disclosed. Especially considering the review was uploaded to Youtube.

I doubt Randy spent thousands of dollars of his own money to book plane tickets, lodging, ect to go to a gun mfg in Turkey 99% of people have never heard of.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-r ... nfluencers

https://www.travelweekly.com/Mark-Pestr ... C-scrutiny

 

Skeet_Man, I think that is a "Yes" .

That is not at all a yes. There is a very long string of fake names, everywhere, that come up with some really wacky theories. Sorry, no one is entitled to my Johnson size, my income tax returns, or any other personal information. Would you like to know how much I made in the stock market last year? Sorry, absolutely none of your business. Interested in my medical records? Sorry, you can't have them.

If you want to start begging for money, it might be time to start your political career. You have every right to violate your own privacy and to mind your own business, but zero entitlement to mind mine. You're some fifty years too late for that.

 

Ok , now that we've settled that . Thank you for the video Randy.

 

Ok , now that we've settled that . Thank you for the video Randy.

You're welcome! Turkey, the country, isn't what many people think it is, at all. How many people had any idea that gasoline costs 50 - 60% more in Turkey than in the U.S.? I was surprised at the in-house capabilities of Retay, from barrel-making, machining, wood-working, injection-molding, in-house tooling design and creation, and so forth. I learned a lot.

The best thing about Turkey is the cuisine. They really know how to eat. I didn't eat everything, but I certainly tried. I can also say that there is absolutely no shortage of extremely attractive women in Turkey.

The biggest "shotgun industry" trade show, in the world, is IWA . . . which is coming up soon. https://www.iwa.info/en . Although some like to think that only Americans like to hunt and target shoot, so do the French, the Russians, and Germans as well. Most Americans understand that our U.K. friends have a very long history with firearms and shotguns, specifically. It is a heritage that spans the globe, one way or another.

 

Ok , now that we've settled that . Thank you for the video Randy.

You're welcome! Turkey, the country, isn't what many people think it is, at all. How many people had any idea that gasoline costs 50 - 60% more in Turkey than in the U.S.? I was surprised at the in-house capabilities of Retay, from barrel-making, machining, wood-working, injection-molding, in-house tooling design and creation, and so forth. I learned a lot.

The best thing about Turkey is the cuisine. They really know how to eat. I didn't eat everything, but I certainly tried. I can also say that there is absolutely no shortage of extremely attractive women in Turkey.

The biggest "shotgun industry" trade show, in the world, is IWA . . . which is coming up soon. https://www.iwa.info/en . Although some like to think that only Americans like to hunt and target shoot, so do the French, the Russians, and Germans as well. Most Americans understand that our U.K. friends have a very long history with firearms and shotguns, specifically. It is a heritage that spans the globe, one way or another.

Thanks Randy, informative for the inquisitive minds. IMO, they deserve a real look (the guns and of course, the females). Don't need the Masai Mara, but maybe. Worked in the Middle East for 3 1/2 yrs. and yes, there were some Turkish women you had to take a double take on.

 

Skeet_Man, I think that is a "Yes" .

That is not at all a yes. There is a very long string of fake names, everywhere, that come up with some really wacky theories. Sorry, no one is entitled to my Johnson size, my income tax returns, or any other personal information. Would you like to know how much I made in the stock market last year? Sorry, absolutely none of your business. Interested in my medical records? Sorry, you can't have them.

If you want to start begging for money, it might be time to start your political career. You have every right to violate your own privacy and to mind your own business, but zero entitlement to mind mine. You're some fifty years too late for that.

Wow, way to duck the question Randy, interesting that you didn't include my full post. No one asked you about any of that information or for any money. To repeat, if you are a paid or otherwise compensated reviewer/endorser of certain brands (Retay Arms and Fabarm would be my guess) you should be revealing that information when you sing their praises and bad-mouth other brands on a public forum. I'm not asking you to reveal how much they paid you in $$/goods/services/comped trips etc., merely asking for a simple yes or no so we can determine how seriously to take your opinions of same.

 

 

{hs# Good job, Randy!! Looking forward to your review on this one. :twisted:

 

Would "thumbs up" be sufficient?

 

Among gentlemen? Yes Sir!

From all appearances although Retay is relatively new to these shores, the amount of guns of all types being produced as shown in your video, is a clear indication that they are moving a very large number of guns worldwide. That is good to know for someone who may think they are a soon to be forgotten brand.

I bet the 20 gauge they have forthcoming will be a real delight.

 

I bet the 20 gauge they have forthcoming will be a real delight.

It is hard telling-- it may suck, for all I know: I've not so much as pulled the trigger on one. They were announced at the SHOT Show, but (as is the case with all guns inside the Sands), they were non-firing display models. They are going into full production in a month or so, at least that's the plan.

 

I bet the 20 gauge they have forthcoming will be a real delight.

It is hard telling-- it may suck, for all I know: I've not so much as pulled the trigger on one. They are going into full production in a month or so, at least that's the plan.

Maybe, but I doubt it. They seem to do a great deal of testing for each gun produced. That "dry cycling apparatus" should be used more by some gun companies I could name so that they have less prolonged "break in" period.

 

Well, we will find out.

There wasn't much hunting (this time of year) in the Konya area, but I did meet up with a bunch of local hunters in the hills for a wild boar hunt.

 

Randy, interesting video, thanks. How does their factory compare to other gun manufacturers you have seen? I watched your video when you went Remington, similar processes? Which is more technology advanced? Can you compare them to other manufacturers? Retay seemed pretty high tech.

 

It is difficult to compare Retay to, a Savage Arms, a Remington, etc., etc., for several reasons. The product mix is widely different, so comparing a rifle manufacturer to a handgun manufacturer to a shotgun manufacturer is, in some ways, apples to oranges. Some of the plants I'm familiar with required non-disclosure agreements prior to entering some of the 'more-sensitive' areas as well, but that's up to the respective companies. The last time I was at Savage, there was no semi-auto shotgun manufacturing . . . a recent development.

 

Ok , now that we've settled that . Thank you for the video Randy.

... I can also say that there is absolutely no shortage of extremely attractive women in Turkey.
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Yes, I was hoping that young lady in the red sweater and black jacket to your left would be more prominently featured in the video. Otherwise, very good. Thank you.

 

And does Retay only produce guns under their own brand, or do they manufacture for other brands as well?

 

And does Retay only produce guns under their own brand, or do they manufacture for other brands as well?

Yes, Retay is Retay. In Konya, Retay manufacturing, engineering, sales, and the management team is all under one roof.

Retay has dedicated sales managers for North America, South America, France, Russia, Greece, the U.K., and so forth, all working out of Konya headquarters. As you might imagine, Retay is a very popular brand in Turkey as well. As mentioned earlier, Retay is gearing up right now for the World's Largest Shotgun show, IWA, https://www.iwa.info/en , which is in Nuremberg, Germany. Retay is sending at least seven representatives.

Although I've been to Germany several times, I've never attended IWA OutdoorClassics. The primary reason is that I have not, is that much of the Euro - International product is not available in the United States, and so is of limited value to my readers. I may go anyway next year, just for my own education. Between recent trips to Arkansas, Las Vegas, Texas, and Turkey . . . there are a lot of things for me to attend to right now here in Illinois.

Retay does much more in house than many gun manufacturers, and so has complete control over the final product. They make their own barrels, triggers, walnut stocks, synthetic stocks, choke tubes, apply their own Cerakote, etc., all in house . . . something that very, very few manufacturers can claim.

I was hoping to get in some quality shooting time with the new Masai Mara 20 gauge, but that was not to be. It sounds like it is about a month away, although my understanding is that the ATF has already approved them for import into the United States.

I was very impressed with the Retay facility, the Retay employees, the local hunters, and the Konya area in general. They were all very gracious, hospitable, and fun to be with.