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#1 ·
As promised here is a brief review on the Spolar loader. This is not an attempt to promote the Spolar, I'm just providing some basic info. When I was looking into this loader I found it difficult to get info so this material may help others.

Here is a photo from the front:

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This loader is very nice looking and obviously well made. The gold parts are anodized aluminum. The main turret is black anodized aluminum but the remaining black parts are steel. The loader is quite heavy, 50lbs+.

I did not get the hydraulic option. Too expensive and I have no where to fit that equipment. Plus I could not stand the constantly running motor. ATS is coming out with an electric drive system for this loader and I will look into that if I feel I need more speed.

The base is 13.5"x8". Height is 31". You need a lot of depth. The primer tray is 22" deep from the front of the base and you need a full 33" to open it fully. You don't have to open it fully but it is harder to fill if you can't. I am thinking about hacksawing the primer tray in half because it interferes with a tool called a CasePro that I use to resize 38Super cases for my target pistol. Primer capacity is 400 but I could live with 200. You also need a solid loading bench since a flimsy bench would be rocking around as you push/pull the handle. The handle sticks out 12.5" from the bench when in the down position if you mount the tool flush at the front.

One annoying feature is that loaded shells eject very low:

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I refuse to cut a big hole in my loading bench so I am using a cookie tray to catch the loaded shells. The tray holds about 100 shells and works fine. Note that the ATS electric drive unit raises the Spolar up several inches which would eject the shells high enough to use a much bigger bin to catch the loaded shells. That's another reason I refuse to cut a hole in my bench since I may get the ATS later.

Here is the tool setup to load and with the turret full:

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I am right handed. Right now I put the hulls on the left and wads on the right. You must hand feed hulls and wads. After running a Dillon with a casefeeder for a few months, feeding cases sucks but I will get used to it. You can also put the hulls and wads on the left side and reach across to insert the wads. I am using two hands on the downstroke but it is easy with one hand, much easier than my Grabber. Speed is faster with one hand on the handle and the other hand feeding hulls and wads but it is fast enough for me using two hands on the handle which slows down wad feeding.

Another annoying feature is the primer feed system. It is not a true gravity feed, instead it uses a small, noisy vibration motor to "buzz" the primers into the track. The vibration also settles the powder and shot I suppose. Fortunately, the buzzing motor only runs for a second at the bottom of the downstroke but my wife can still hear it in the TV room 50 feet away.

Here is the primer setup. The buzz motor is just under the tray and the switch box is at the bottom of the frame:

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Here is how the Spolar works:

Station 1 is where new hulls are inserted.

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You have to pay attention to get the shell in the holder but it is easy after a little practice.

Here is what the turret and resizing dies look like:

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On the far left is station 1. On the downstroke a shotgun mop cleans and oils the empty resizing die. A new shell is inserted then, on the upstroke, the shell is partly inserted into the resizing die.

Station 2 deprimes and resizes on the downstroke by forcing the hull fully into the resizing die which has a resizing ring at its base. The brass is fully resized right down to the lip. Very slick. The hull is reprimed on the upstroke. You push the handle all the way back and there is good feel as the primer seats. If you pay attention you will know that the primer has inserted and seated properly from the feel. Primer seating depth is easily adjustable.

Station 3, charges powder bushing on downstroke, drops powder on the upstroke. The Spolar uses Hornady powder and shot bushings. They fit into a very nicely machined charge bar that operates very easily and smoothly. Both powder and shot charges are very consistent. So far the Hornady bushings seem to throw charges that are pretty much right on the money using 700x and Universal powder and #9 hard shot.

Station 4, Manually insert wad in pop-out wad holder, then tool inserts wad and drops shot on the downstroke, recharges shot bushing on the upstroke. Wad seating depth is easily adjustable. Simply unloosen the lock nut by hand, turn the drop tube and retighten. I love this setup.

Station 5, pre-crimps on the downstroke. Also easy to adjust.

Closeup of stations 3,4,5:

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Station 6, main crimp on the downstroke. The main crimp die is spring loaded and adds a little resistance to the downstroke. Also easily adjustable.

Station 7, radius crimp on downstroke, partly ejects shell from resizing die. Also easy to adjust and very positive. No crushed, wrinkled or creased hulls so far.

Station 8, ejects shell from machine on downstroke.

Results:

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All of these various brand cases were loaded with 15.5g 700x, various brand wads and 7/8oz hard 9 shot. All of the crimps are perfect or just slightly dished and no adjustments were made whatsoever after I setup the first shell which was a WinAAHS.

Conclusion. Best made reloader on the market. Easiest to use and adjust compared to MEC and Dillon, the only other shotshell loaders I have used. Excellent results and speed. Tool easy to maintain. I have disassembled it almost completely, stopped only by loctite. Virtually any part can be replaced with ease and even a total rebuild would be easy in a couple of hours. The only spare parts I intend to order are the rubber shot and powder seals; I don't see anything else that might break or wear out in the forseeable future. So far no powder migration.

Steel base hulls are a question. They are significantly harder than brass base hulls to insert and release from the resizing dies. MEC's collet resizer is an advantage here. Will steel base hulls put undue stress and wear on the Spolar dies and other parts? Don;t know yet. Spolar says their tool can do millions of rounds. The steel base hulls I have loaded so far were fired from an auto with sloppy chambers. My O/U does not require resizing brass hulls and it may be the same with steel. If so, the Spolar may not have a problem after I shoot the steel hulls in the O/U.

Bottom line is that I am very pleased with the Spolar and do not regret spending the extra money at all. In my situation I needed a single tool that would accept gauge changes so I did not have to line up 4 MECs to cover all the skeet events. I simply do not have room for 4 MECs.

Here is what you install to change the gauge plus the appropriate wad fingers and Station 1 shell holder:

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With a little practice this job can be done under 5 min.

There are probably a few points I forgot to mention so if there are any questions, let me know.
 
#8 ·
Do you have any problems with the petals on the windjammer wads folding when the wad is inserted into the hull? Great pics, nice machine.
Bob,

Those wads are actually Claybuster 4100-12Bs (Lightning) which I tried for the first time. No problems so far anyway, the petals never seem to fold over or otherwise cause a problem. Don't know how the Lightnings shoot and pattern yet but they do load fine. The shock absorbing area on these wads looks weird and it is much harder to collapse than more normal wads with legs like WinAAs. Maybe these wads would tend to deform shot more because they are stiffer? As soon as I get one of the guns I just bought back in my hands and actually get to shoot something I will pattern test them and find out.

The Spolar's pop-out wad holder is really cool. Very easy to put the wad in since it comes out and away from the die area. If a wad petal is bent, you can easily spot it and fold it back before pulling the handle.

Jim,

Yeah, it does look like a PW. Whoever designed it probably worked for PW. :) In fact the Spolar hydraulic unit fits the PW machines just fine.
 
#10 ·
Not to get away from your great report on your Spolar, I find that the CB 4100-12B wads pattern absolutly great in my 3200, 1100 and K-80. I have been using them for about six years now for my 7/8 oz. loads and couldn't be happier with them.
 
#11 ·
Not to get away from your great report on your Spolar, I find that the CB 4100-12B wads pattern absolutly great in my 3200, 1100 and K-80. I have been using them for about six years now for my 7/8 oz. loads and couldn't be happier with them.
That is good to hear. I need to save all the money I can using clone wads to make up for the nasty hit to my credit card by the Spolar Power Load Co. :)
 
#12 ·
Good job, Bill.

On the other hand, living as close as you to do to Dillon, Why a Spolar?

And before you take the hacksaw to the primer tray, please reconsider moving the machine behind the Spolar; It's a crime to fold, spindle, or mutilate a Spolar, and Dicksie and Carter will personally come to your home and beat the snot out of you......

On the other hand, if you really do mutilate the primer tray, i might be tempted to do the same thing. It's a frigging work of art!

You have the Rolls Royce of <shotshell> reloaders, adapt everything else to that, not the other way around.....

My monies worth, anyway.

johnjohn in SoCal.
 
#13 ·
On the other hand, living as close as you to do to Dillon, Why a Spolar?
Tried a Dillon shotshell loader for 3 months but couldn't get it to work well. But as you might have noticed from the photos I have a Dillon 1050 and 550 right next to the Spolar. :)

And before you take the hacksaw to the primer tray, please reconsider moving the machine behind the Spolar; It's a crime to fold, spindle, or mutilate a Spolar, and Dicksie and Carter will personally come to your home and beat the sh!t out of you......
Yes, they are fussy about messing with their tool and I don't plan on telling them about the primer tray.

On the other hand, if you really do mutilate the primer tray, i might be tempted to do the same thing.
I will post pictures when I cut it in half. After hacksawing it off, I will sand the cut smooth and square on my Shopsmith. The lid can then be cut short to match and reinstalled by drilling and tapping for the hinge bolts and when I am done you will never know the tray was shortened.

You have the Rolls Royce of reloaders, adapt everything else to that, not the other way around....
Well, to me anyway, the 1050 tops the Spolar as the Rolls Royce of reloaders plus I meticulously positioned the CasePro to use the 1050's casefeeder so, in this case, the Spolar primer tray has to get trimmed out of the way. :)
 
#14 ·
Never seen one of these "up close and personal". Sure looks pretty :)

I'm amazed at how they designed that finished shell "chute" so low down. I can definitely see that being a problem without a hole cut in the bench with the finished shells accumulating right there and blocking others from being dispensed from the machine.

I hope raising it up as you suggested resolves that for you adequately.
 
#15 ·
Nice job on the pictures and report. I too have a Spolar and did encounter trouble with the swing out wad guide when I first got it. I had an issue using Green Dusters with bent petals because the plastic formulation allowed the petal to snap back sometimes after you bent it open. This would then allow the ram to push the wad with the bent petal into the hull. Usually it is very obvious because the shot is higher in the case and I just removed the hull poured out the shot and straightened the wad petal then poured the shot back in.

If you have a lot of bent wads you can put a 20 or 28 gauge wad ram- shot drop tube on. This made a huge difference and allowed the smaller tube to slip into bent wads with ease.

The big ball on the handle was not comfortable for me so i adapted a PW shovel handle to mine and found I liked it much better.

I have serial #563 and am curious as to how many have been sold since I bought mine over 7 years ago. What's your number?

I have loaded over 100,000 shells and have never had to replace the O-Rings for the powder and shot bottles.

Good luck with it!!
 
#16 ·
Bill,
Thanks for taking the time to assure me that you know what you are doing with a hacksaw; I will rest easier knowing that.

Most people who have a Shopsmith know what they are doing.

I did see the 1050, with shotshells in the bullet tray; I didn't know that the 1050 did shotshells....(kidding, of course!)

Those are great crimps, the Spolar does a great job, doesn't it?

You mentioned having wad petals fold over. I use the green and blue Dusters also, depending on the load I am making, and I have a lot of problems with folded wad petals too, spilled shot, and other things that do not improve my disposition while I'm loading.

Here is what I did to solve the problem, and this will allow the wads to work with any press, and any shot drop tube, regardless of gauge. I know you are not going to believe this, so feel free to take it with a grain of salt if you want.

I went to Wallymart and got a mesh laundry bag. I use this for wads. They come in different sizes, and to make sure I could get an entire bag of 500 Dusters in one mesh bag, I got three different sizes. I dump an entire bag of wads into the mesh laundry bag, zip it closed (that's REALLY important), and throw it in the clothes dryer. I set the heat on high, turn it on, and walk away. I come back in about 10 minutes, remove the mesh bag and spread out the now warm wads, so they have room to cool off in their natural state. Since there is no other wad pressing against it as it cools, it cools in it's originally manufactured state, i.e., with the wad petals straight. In 5 minutes or so, they are cool enough to reload. and they are nice and straight, too. Viola', no more folded wad petals. Works like a charm, and not having to constantly clean up spilled shot is a bonus!

Thanks for the review of the Spolar. You did a great job with it, and your education shows in your writing and typing skills, which I found to be excellent. (As you are well aware, that is not always the case on this forum.)

Best Regards,

johnjohn in SoCal.

P.S. I love that case feeder on my Dillon SL900 and XL650.....but that Spolar is a work of art....maybe someday...
 
#18 ·
Bill,
That was an excellant and thorough review of the operation of the Spolar Reloading system. The pictures were outstanding.

I have and earlier model, SN 140.

I have reloaded all the gauges and the 410 bore.

The only issue I have with regards to petal folding is when I reload the 28 gauge. I end up flaring the petals before I place them in the wad cup.

I have found out when you are reloading the 410 you must take your time.

Again, that was one of the best reviews I have seen in a while.
 
#19 ·
I have serial number 318 although I bought it used. The original owner got it with 28 and .410 tooling and he was mechanically challenged to the point that he could not change tool heads. It is so easy, you have to wonder how this guy tied his shoes. He had a friend change them for him and it got to be too much of a hassle.

One a thread on relaoding, Dave Perusky, who loads commercially tells of placing his wads in a bag in the dryer with some of those dryer sheets and the petals flare out some. I have had the same problem at times with 28 and 410 wads. I am going to give that a try and see how it works. with 28 ga hulls, I just stick my finger in down in the wad and it flares the petals back. You do not have a great deal of time though as they start to come back. I had the same problem on my PW 28 ga loader so it is not unique with the SG.

Bill, I wonder if you could build a sliding drawer type of base for your loader to move it out of the way when you are working with your other tools? Seems a shame to desecrate that loader. I may just tell on you. :p
 
#20 ·
Thanks for the compliments fellows.

Sportshot2,

My loader is serial no 1831 so there is not that many out there. Since you have 100k reloads on your machine and have not replaced the powder/shot seals, I am cancelling my order for those parts which means I will be running with zero spares. :)

The new loader came with the same shot drop tube, .465" diameter, on the 12 and 20ga toolhead, so I guess they are automatically doing what you said an using a small wad ram. I have not had any problems with bent wad petals because I put bent ones in the clothes dryer as per JohnJohn's post and that straightens them out.

I am thinking about puttting a Dillon roller handle on the Spolar but a shovel handle is a good idea too. Do you use one hand to operate the lever or two on the downstroke?

The Dillon handle shaft is the exact same diameter as the Spolar handle and all I would have to do is drill a single hole for the retaining bolt. So far I don't mind the ball handle but I will probably switch to a roller or shovel.

Old Vet,

The low shell ejection is not causing me a problem. I put a cookie tray behind the machine with a shim under the front. That tilts the tray away from the loader and makes the shells slide/roll to the back and they do not block the new shells from coming out. I just empty the tray into a bucket every once in a while.

Customstox,

I wish I could have found a used Spolar. Even if beat up, I could easily rebuilt one to new specs in an hour once I had the parts. This tool is really easy to take apart and service.

I am pretty sure the gauge change can be done in under 3 minutes with a little practice, maybe less. My earlier estimate of 5 min is way too slow. I do not empty the shot container, just powder which goes fast and then lift the whole powder/shot assembly off after removing the 2 bolts. Remove the small plate screw and off comes the toolhead in under 1 min. I fiddled with the 2 bolts and the screw cleaning up the threads and holes so I can thread them in/out quickly and easily. Pop the new tool head back on, insert the screw, pop the powder/shot assmbly back on and install the 2 bolts, change the shell holder and wad fingers - done in 2-3 min. I'll time myself one of these days.

The dryer trick definitely works to flare out wads but I don't know why you would need dryer sheets. I have just been using my finger to bend the CB Windjammer clones I am testing. Very few of them are bent so it has not been necessary to use the dryer trick on them.

I am still thinking about the tool conflict issue. I might be able to rig up a moveable base for the CasePro and just leave the Spolar alone since I only use the CasePro occasionally and I will be using the Spolar at least a couple of times a week. But even if I have to cut down the primer tray it will still look like it came that way from the factory. After spending $1395 on the tool, I will be careful. :)

But don't rat me out or Dicksie will cut me off at the knees. :)
 
#21 ·
Bill,

I would suggest that you have some wad guide fingers on hand. I find that if you have a hull that is a little out of shape some wads will catch on the opening and that can break the wad guide fingers. You are probably better at inspecting your hulls before loading than I am so it may not be an issue for you. Would be irritating to have to stop loading because you had no spare wad guide fingers.

The PW shovel handle is the same size as the Spolars, so all I had to do was drill a hole. However the shovel does slightly interfere with the primer tray cover and I have to pull the handle slightly forward to get the cover to clear.

Good Luck!!
 
#22 ·
Very good information. Not to get off topic here but you mentioned that you could not get the Dillon to work properly. Could you let us know what problems you encountered? I've had mine only a couple of months and its working great so far with only minor hiccups caused by my own initial lack of experience with it. Thanks and good luck with the Spolar.
 
#23 ·
I have a Spolar Gold four gauge set up and I really love it. I've been through the usual MEC's, DL's, and PW's over the years and I can definitely say that this machine is the last I'll ever need to buy. I'm a four gauge shooter and it's really outstanding in the smaller gauges. As pointed out by another poster, the gauge conversion process is really quick and totally painless.

My machine is a newer one and I also have one of the newer design hydraulic power packs on mine. It is much quieter than the older hydraulic units that I've had in the past (my old PW unit could raise the dead and then deafen them). It's also smoother. I have my power pack sitting inside of a 3 sided insulated enclosure which is located as far away from the bench as possible, and that helps the noise level even more.

The ATS electric unit looks like it will be a nice alternative if they ever bring it to market. Apparently they are close to having the PW model ready, so the Spolar version should be right behind it. I have a shooting buddy who uses their units on his foursome of MEC 900's, and the ATS units are his favorite part of his reloading set up.

Instead of adding this machine to my existing reloading bench, I put it on it's own dedicated bench. I sourced a bench that was exactly identical to the Spolar bench in every way, from one of the big industrial tool supply companies (at half the price I should add). I used one of Spolar's bench templates, and I set it up exactly the same way as they do including the hydraulic hose routing and shell dump holes.

Speaking of the shell dump hole, one mod that I made to the bench was to buy it without the drawer like Spolar uses, and instead I modded up a big three sided bin from sheet metal for the bench's underside where the drawer would normally hang. I beefed it up with a few metal supports. I can now slip in a big rubberized bin like I use to store and transport the various reloaded gauges in, and they fall right through the hole in the bench and into the container as fast as the Spolar spits them out. All I need to do is stick in a fresh bin every few hundred shells and set the loaded bin on the shelf ready to go shooting.

The Spolar set ups are pricey, but they are worth the money if you value great quality reloads particularly in the small gauges, and more importantly, it's a machine that is bullet proof, needs almost zero maintenance, and requires no attention to it's settings. In the past reloading has been nothing more than a chore for me, but the Spolar has taken the work and hassle out of my reloading.
 
#24 ·
Not to get off topic here but you mentioned that you could not get the Dillon to work properly. Could you let us know what problems you encountered? I've had mine only a couple of months and its working great so far with only minor hiccups caused by my own initial lack of experience with it.
Bridger,

I did list the problems in a prior post. The Dillon is a nice shotshell loader and I really loved the casefeeder but I had too much trouble adjusting it for different loads and hulls.

Here are the details:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtop ... ht=#564549

Have you seen any of the problems I mentioned?
 
#25 ·
Thanks Bill- good thing I didn't see that post or I may not have bought the Dillon. As it is I have had few problems. The machine went together very easily and I had it up and running in a very short time period. I've had a couple of times where the primers did not feed and of course I did not catch it. Seems to be working ok now. One thing in my favor is that I am still using the old style AA's and will be for some time and so no problems with the hulls. The case feeder is really nice but you do have to make sure you don't have out of round hulls or they won't go into the sizing die. So anyway at this point I'm quite pleased with the Dillon and hope it continues that way No loader is perfect and there are things about the Dillon I don't like but all in all the one I have seems to be a good machine as long as you pay attention to what you are doing. good luck with the Spolar. One of my shooting aquaintances bought one of their first ones and I was amazed at the quality of it when he showed it to me.