What area of the country? Idaho has breeders of both plus Pudelpointers and German Shorthairs.

 

Kentucky… Idaho would be a tough haul…

 

We have 3 , going to breed one next year (Alabama)

 

Hey… your not that far away (Kentucky) stay in touch , if I don’t have one by then I will be interested , I would like to have a 6 week old pup around the first of May……

 

My Gwp is going to be 9 in May. I to raised labs prior to him. I am starting the search for his replacement. Bachman Bay Kennels out of Idaho has some amazing dogs.

 

Here in New England we see a fair number of WPG's at versatile dog events from Duchasseur Kennels out of Quebec.
Duchasseur Kennel Information Sheet

The pandemic had the border closed so that slowed how many came into our area.
A friend of mine was looking to breed his Duchasseur female Griffon last year but was not able to find a suitable stud.

 

I own two GWP’s. An 8 year old and a 3 year old. Half brothers. Won’t have anything else. Goof balls around the house or lodge then are all business in the field. They really have an off/on switch that makes living with them much more enjoyable.

OklaMike

 

I’ve been watching this discussion and finally decided to relate my experience. I grew up around English Pointers and Setters (English & Irish). My first bird dog of my own was a big male Pointer with tremendous drive. My second was an English Setter. After my Setter passed, I began exploring versatile dogs. Initially, I thought I would like a Griffon and contacted a breeder. We talked for a while about my expectations and he suggested that since I was accustomed to hunting over Pointers and Setters, I would probably find a Griffon to be “under foot”, as they are a close deliberate hunter and don’t move with the speed of Pointers and Setters. He suggested I consider a German Wirehaired Pointer which is a versatile breed also and hunts with more range, though not so much as a big-running Pointer or Setter.

I did wind up getting a German Wirehaired Pointer and fell in love with the breed. In addition to being a great gun-dog, they have great personality. My current GWP is my third. He is approaching 3 years old. He is the strongest natural pointer I have ever seen. He has had only minimal back yard training and he is a hunting machine, hunting at medium range, with his head high, and one speed – WFO.

One thing I have noticed with the breed over the years is a proliferation of slick coated dogs that lack the two layer coat having the dense undercoat covered by the overcoat that the breed standard describes as “straight, harsh, wiry and flat lying, and is from one to two inches in length”. Some folks suggest that slick coated dogs are the result of crossing Pointers into the breed in an effort to create a big-running GWP. I don’t know if that is the case, but I do think the wiry coat is one of the things that makes the breed attractive.

This is my current GWP, Paddy. AKA – Hair Ball, AKA – Dammit Dog!

 

I'm on my 5th GWP...good times!
Calvin 12 wks. in the front and Cricket 1.5 ys. in the back. Watch out birds.

 

This is my gwp grizz. He has been a great dog. At almost 9 years old I am starting my search for his replacement. I will still hunt him but only for hours each day and not full days.

He has been a little rough inside the house. Great breed he will hunt anything with feathers. Will point rabbits and tree squirrels. I only wish I would have done more with the blood trailing. Maybe on the next one.

 

Have you looked into the Deutsch Drahthaar? They have a very strict breeding program and are hunting machines. Mine is 11 years old and is a great family pet. They Point, Retrieve, and Track. She has an ON/Off switch and can tell the difference between my getting ready for work routine and getting ready to hunt.

 

Have you looked into the Deutsch Drahthaar? They have a very strict breeding program and are hunting machines. Mine is 11 years old and is a great family pet. They Point, Retrieve, and Track. She has an ON/Off switch and can tell the difference between my getting ready for work routine and getting ready to hunt.
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I "would" have a Drahthaar...... But I Am DK , Deutsch Kurzhaar owner (avatar pic) and have a new DK pup coming ...... Yes , very strict breeding .

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Great looking DK.

 

Here's Cooper, my 2 year old Griff. He's my first sporting dog in over 25 years. Life began slowing down enough to really dedicate the time to a hunting dog. I camped and hunted with my friend who has a Griff and I was sold pretty quickly. Cooper is very easy to train and as at home in a NE Ohio duck blind as he is in a milo field in Kansas. I used a very reputable breeder in Michigan and went through an interview process just to get on the list. He's amazing and I couldn't be happier!

It was mentioned earlier that they are close hunters and that's a fact. I'm no spring chicken anymore and having a partner that doesn't range too far is a blessing. He has an endless gas tank in the fields, but doesn't get too far from me. It was a definite factor in choosing the breed. He has a fantastic personality and is very well behaved in the house. I am told they don't do well with harsh training methods and I am very easy on him in that respect. At this point he wants to please me and what little training and reinforcement he needs is quickly accomplished with a gentle hand and plenty of rewards and love.

 

Here's Cooper, my 2 year old Griff. He's my first sporting dog in over 25 years. Life began slowing down enough to really dedicate the time to a hunting dog. I camped and hunted with my friend who has a Griff and I was sold pretty quickly. Cooper is very easy to train and as at home in a NE Ohio duck blind as he is in a milo field in Kansas. I used a very reputable breeder in Michigan and went through an interview process just to get on the list. He's amazing and I couldn't be happier!

It was mentioned earlier that they are close hunters and that's a fact. I'm no spring chicken anymore and having a partner that doesn't range too far is a blessing. He has an endless gas tank in the fields, but doesn't get too far from me. It was a definite factor in choosing the breed. He has a fantastic personality and is very well behaved in the house. I am told they don't do well with harsh training methods and I am very easy on him in that respect. At this point he wants to please me and what little training and reinforcement he needs is quickly accomplished with a gentle hand and plenty of rewards and love.

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Lots of good doggies, and happy owners, which is wonderful to see. Seems like you all should be able to address the OP's original question--
"wondering if anyone out there knows anyone who breeds these dogs or knows breeders that regularly has them ?"

 

Papa, you are absolutely right. We ALL got sidetracked from the OP’s question.

Both of my dogs had the same sire owned by Adam Cunningham who owns Ironwire Kennels. This is a first rate breeder of GWP’s with a long history.

My 8 year old came from a kennel that is no longer in business.

My three year old came from Tom Shoemaker who owns SWNE Firewires in Cambridge, NE.

I hope this helps some. These two guys do it right. Mr. Shoemaker has a small operation that does only limited quality breedings. Mr. Cunningham has a larger operation with multiple Champion sites and dams.

Both of these guys are straight shooters. Again, I hope this info helps.

OklaMike

 

My post on Shoemaker should have read— “limited, quality breedings.” NOT “limited quality.” Comma makes a big difference. Sorry about that!! He is a quality breeder.

 

My first Griff came from GriffonPoint in Canada, second from Capstone/Flatbrook in San Diego. Best dogs I've ever had.

 

Here's a shout out to Pudelpointers. A do everything dog. Got ours from Jon Coolican of North Iowa Pudelpointers. Here's Sonny at 7.5 months. Ain't he handsome! And a hunting machine.

 

That dog has some serious leg. I bet he will be able to run all day.

 

We've two griffs....absolutely the best dogs I've owned.
Used for waterfowling, pheasants, quail, and blood trailing wounded big game.
They turn it off when in the house, great family dogs.
My .02.

 

 

^ Eastern Kansas breeder

 

Here’s my 1.5 old Griff. He’s a little stubborn sometimes but overall a great dog and I’m actually on the waiting list for another. Gotta love our bearded friends. He’s going on he’s first full hunt next weekend.

 

I doubled up.
Gus is 1/2 GWP and half Griff. 100% awesome!

He’s currently finishing a 2 month stay at the trainers.
They also breed Griffs, Riden High Gundogs in Redmond,OR

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My then 7 wks , now 16 wks Tess . My previous dog was a GSP , being hypoallergenic attracted me to the breed ( my grandchildren are allergic ) No regrets Luv ,Luv, the breed . If your a hunter do your homework , the breed as been infiltrated by the show-ring crowd . Take your time and look up one of the best NAVHDA breeder . DE -JAC PINES , Julie and Dave Carlstrom in Bancroft Wisconsin .

 

You are right about the breeder. Make sure your getting a dog with a good hunting background. My WPG has extremely good bloodlines and it shows in his hunt drive and instincts.

 

I grew up with Chessies, and they fit well around there as most of our bird hunting was for ducks and geese in the Columbia River, in the area we called the Mud Flats (river is braided there). I didn't have a dog of my own all the time I was in the military; living in the shacks and no-notice deployments don't allow for responsible dog ownership. When the direction of the military changed, I knew it wasn't going to work for me and I started reading on my last deployment to Bosnia. This was before the Web, circa 1993. I read Joan Baily's book on the Wirehaired Pointing Griffon and decided to give that breed a good look.

I ultimately ended up with a griff pup, Jäger, my first and best Griff, my heart dog. My wife also got a pup out of that litter; the breeder was a shirt tail relative of hers; one thing led to another and we've been together 25 years and 6 Griffs now. We hunt with friends who have Pudelpointers, GSPs and a few others. They are fine dogs and I enjoy hunting with them, but as good as they are, in the character department and biddibility, I truly do believe that the Griff is better than all of them for a dog with you 24/7. I would not recommend a Griff above others to somebody who will kennel their dog a lot of time, or who wants a big running dog.

I have often heard people talk about Griff's being underfoot, but that hasn't been our experience. Of course, that can be a trait a kennel breeds for and a trainer can certainly train a dog to hunt close or train them to hunt out further. We develop our dogs to hunt out about 50 yards or so, and allow them to develop a kind of workmanlike cast. They don't really hunt fast, they hunt deliberate and thoroughly - our dogs rather than the first two have all been from different kennels here in Montana. One thing about a more deliberate, paced hunting style/speed is that our Griffs can hunt all day, while our friends often head back to the truck to drop off one big running dog and pick up another for it's turn; our dogs can go all day at the pace we hunt them.

There are multiple breeders in this area; most of them are pretty good. For us, it's not so much the kennel name, but personal knowledge we have of the breeder as well as knowledge of the particular litter we're interested in. I think that the term "four wheel drive of versatile gun dogs fits them permanently.

 

Here is my 5 month old Griff, Rosie

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That looks like an incipient troublemaker, plotting her next bout of mayhem.

Does she get the Griff Crazies as well?

My old boy Laird used to have bouts of the Griff Crazies even when he was five years old. Thankfully, always outside the house. Kya... however... the house poses no limitations for her exhibiting canine parkour, traversing the hall using the walls. I think she does stuff like that just because her Griff brain says she can. Our friends Pudelpointers just watch that with a WTF on their faces.

The Crazies...

Totally unscripted:

Not quite steady to a rooster emulating a greyhound, racing by her across the frozen crust instead of flying... wouldn't expect anything else from a nine month old gun dog.

 

Old Airborne,

You said it perfectly.