Assuming you can get what you’ve been shooting with the the results you state….. I wouldn’t change a thing.

 

Gamebore White Gold, 1 oz 1300 FPS
Winchester AA 1 oz 1290 FPS (Super Handicap)

The shot size I dont really think matters, pick whatever you would like. I do know that Gamebore has the 7.5X shell which is only allowed for FITASC which I want to try.

 

I shoot one ounce at everything. So what ever is in the gun bag.

 

AA 1oz 1250 removes any doubt from my mind. much softer than the white gold 1300 or silver bullets @ 1290. Inside 40 yards with some belly or dome- whatever i got is fine.

 

I think RC4 super-nicks and B&P Mach 1oz 1250's (also nickel-plated shot) may be the best shotshell loads out there -- in fact, I believe they're the same load with just the different hull; and in that the B&P are a tad softer on recoil. However, those are 'spensive! And I feel they both pattern a good half-step tighter than a conventional, un-plated shotshell load, so when I do use them, I open up a half-choke from my normal...

All that said, my default favorite shell for competition remains the AA "gray kittys," the 1oz 1290 in #7-½'s -- and I be done.

 

Clever T1 Mirage 28gr 1oz 7.5 1300fps gives me the breaks I'm looking for in both SC and FITASC..

 

Any 1 oz. load of #8 at 1250 fps.

 

Winchester AA Diamond Grade 1oz 1250. The Hallmark shell.

 

When you care enough to send the very best

 

I’m getting 10 flats of Mach 2 delivered for $105/flat and I’m very happy with that price. I appreciate the decreased recoil with the Gordon hull.
Emailed Clay Shooters Supply today and there will be RC4s for sale at the World FITASC. Think I’ll buy a flat of Superniks to see how they work for me.

 

I’m getting 10 flats of Mach 2 delivered for $105/flat and I’m very happy with that price. I appreciate the decreased recoil with the Gordon hull.
Emailed Clay Target Sports today and there will be RC4s for sale at the World FITASC. Think I’ll buy a flat of Superniks to see how they work for me.

My prediction: no different than the Mach's, but a teenybit more felt recoil.

 

Federal Fitasc load 12ga 1330 7-1/2 and the old Silver Bullet 1oz 8 AA

 

RC4 1oz 1290 7.5

AA 1oz 1290 8

 

Rc4 1oz 1290 7.5

Thise nickel plated - I see a dust when gun fires. Don't like the idea of inhaling that stuff

I can sell you some of the newer RC4 super-nick 1250's before state if you want -- they don't dust; I think it was the powder they used.

 

B&P is awesome... I'd keep shooting b&p
Flats and flats of #8 and a box of 7.5 for occasional rabbit with distance or stupid big 110

 

Everyone has preferences, and I know there is no right answer, but I like shooting #7.5s. Keeps me from having to choose which ammo to load in my gun and I know that If I put my pattern on a target it will break.

 

I used to basically shoot 8’s and have a handful of 7.5’s for rabbits and far targets. Then I got to thinking why wouldn’t I use the 7.5’s for up close, as well, it’s not pattern density that matters for closer targets. Been very happy since going to all 7.5’s since then.

 

Favorite shell for everything is 1oz 7.5 1170fps Fiocchi shooting dynamics. I have yet to find a target that won’t break with authority with that shell. If I am worried about the soft shot, I just tighten the choke.

 

The Armusa 1oz at 1300 sa28 sporting load in 8’s or their Helice load in 7.5 is my go to. Both have performed well for me. They are loaded with 6% Heper shot.

 

I use 1250 fps 1oz 7.5 and 8 for FITASC (8 for midi & mini get extra 30 or so pellets to fill holes in pattern). I carry a few 1290/1300 1oz 7.5 and 8 for the 60-80 yd targets. Gamebore EVO, Borneghi, Fiocchi, Clever, Win AA, Armusa, Federal, Challenger, or Estate, based upon being on sale, reduced or free shipping. Gamebore EVO and Win AA are my favorite.

 

I have used Winchester AA, Federal GM and RIO. The Winchester and Federal were best. If I had to pick one now, I would go with the Federal HOA 1 oz. @ 1250 FPS.

 

Winchester AA, 7.5, 1290.

 

B&P F2 Mach 7.5 for everything. lm/mod. Keep it simple.

 

One of my best friends from work was and is a very good shooter. He taught me how to shoot skeet and sporting.
I wanted to show my appreciation for his contribution to my modest improvement. I asked him what was his favorite shell to shoot and it was the B&P F2. His shoulder was starting to hurt and he said the F2 was the best shell for him. I bought him two flats.

 

Yes, 1.0-once, 1290-fps, 7.5 hard shot.
Mike

 

This reads like a poll.

When I competed at FITASC we had Win light handicaps at 1290, Fiocchi Little Rhinos at 1250 and, after shooting many flats of all 3, my favorite ... Rem gold Nitro 27's a 1290. All 1 ounce #7.5. Presumably still made but I haven't seen a box of any of those in years.

 

Ditto on the Rem Nitros!👍🏻

 

IMHO - 1 oz. of hard shot #7-1/2 @ 1150 - 1200 FPS will break any target with authority on any course at any distance.

Has anyone read Jimmy Mueller's blog posts about shell speeds?

Jim Muller explains Shot Shell Velocity: Speed DOESN'T Kill

Here is my experience regarding shot shell velocity in a nutshell: the faster you push the payload the more you and your accuracy will suffer. With today’s marketing propaganda being all about “Hyper Sonic Velocity” and “Speed Kills” slogans, target shooters and especially waterfowl hunters are...

mullerchokes.com

and...

Ammo velocity, should I choose fast or slow?

The process of developing Muller Chokes included years of testing. I did ALOT of shooting. Some on targets, some on game, some on patterning boards, moving patterning boards, on water, etc, etc. I have tested many different ammo's ranging in velocities from 1145 FPS to 1550 FPS. And, I've...

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Mueller's observations are pretty consistent with most the findings about shell speed in Dr. A.C. Jones book "Sporting Shotgun Performance".

My go-to shell for FITASC and Sporting is the B&P F2, #7-1/2 at 1200 FPS (when I can find them). If I can't find those, WIN AA Xtra Light @ 1180 FPS are the backup.

 

IMHO - 1 oz. of hard shot #7-1/2 @ 1150 - 1200 FPS will break any target with authority on any course at any distance.

Has anyone read Jimmy Mueller's blog posts about shell speeds?

Jim Muller explains Shot Shell Velocity: Speed DOESN'T Kill

Here is my experience regarding shot shell velocity in a nutshell: the faster you push the payload the more you and your accuracy will suffer. With today’s marketing propaganda being all about “Hyper Sonic Velocity” and “Speed Kills” slogans, target shooters and especially waterfowl hunters are...

mullerchokes.com

and...

Ammo velocity, should I choose fast or slow?

The process of developing Muller Chokes included years of testing. I did ALOT of shooting. Some on targets, some on game, some on patterning boards, moving patterning boards, on water, etc, etc. I have tested many different ammo's ranging in velocities from 1145 FPS to 1550 FPS. And, I've...

mullerchokes.com

Mueller's observations are pretty consistent with most the findings about shell speed in Dr. A.C. Jones book "Sporting Shotgun Performance".

My go-to shell for FITASC and Sporting is the B&P F2, #7-1/2 at 1200 FPS (when I can find them). If I can't find those, WIN AA Xtra Light @ 1180 FPS are the backup.

Muller has been wrong before. Name a male All American that shoots 1200 feet per second or less shells?

 

Muller has something to sell. I ain't buying.

All that nonsense about spreading patterns with high velocity is just that...nonsense.

Try telling an olympic trap shooter that their 1325 fps load is a bad choice.

Watch someone shoot a 55 yd target with an 1145fps shell. Can they break it? Absolutely. It will break about the time their brain wants to register it as a miss. Watch someone shoot it with a 1300 fps shell....and witness the almost instantaneous break. If none of that affects your confidence level, good on ya ... only 7 more targets to go.

It's all about choices and thankfully we're all free to choose.

 

I saw that effects once (and 2-3 more times when it was not in a competition). Was a big teal, supposed to get closer, but nature and wind had different plans. It was lasered to 85-90. Shooter squeezed the trigger, nothing happens, made another move and squeezed a trigger again and target exploded right after the second shot report. We knew that he broke a target with a first shot. But that was really fun to watch, observe and experience. Brain is messed up... It thinks it broke it with a second, when in fact it broke it with the first.

Fun fact: it takes 0.7 of a second for a #7.5 bb to get to the 100 mark, with start velocity 1145fps. It takes 0.64 of a second for the same bb to the same mark if started at 1300fps.

Fun fact2: shot drift. We had a conversation not so long time ago about a wind impact on shooting. 10mph wind and at 50 yard mark bbs are drifted more than a foot (7.5 1300fps). #8 will be moved 2-3 inches more. And that's exactly what was observed: there was a "funky" target no one could touch by some reason. One guy said: we're shooting in wind, push it 2 feet to the left; target was stalling at the peak - it's stupid to shoot 2 feet to the left of a stopped target, right? It was proved we were wrong and guy was right. It's a very unusual and incredible feel... To shoot not where you "feel" it should go, but actually have a correction. Very conscious shooting, but results are fun.

 

Fiocchi Little Rino’s 7.5’s

 

A big plus 1 !!

 

I’ve shot the Little Rhinos and they perform well, but I feel a bit more recoil than from AA or HOA 1250s. I find it interesting that we don’t all perceive recoil the same way. One of my friends thinks the above AAs recoil more than HOAs while another thinks the opposite. I think they feel the same. We all shoot the same gun!